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Can't think of a better poster child of complete corporate waste that benefits no one whose assets should be seized and redistributed to the masses. For the am

by shimman 4mo ago

Can't think of a better poster child of complete corporate waste that benefits no one whose assets should be seized and redistributed to the masses. For the amount that Meta wastes on LLM spending you can pay for things like universal childcare, public community college, and providing free lunch to all public students. If you care about things like money, look up the dollar returns on feeding children during their development or when you tell families they don't have be an economic burden for simply existing. A better world is possible.

Avicebron 4mo ago
I mean, we can call it a voluntary surrender of their networth for the public good. How many school teachers could be funded by splitting and selling his ranch in hawaii
- cyanydeez 4mo ago
  So, for one: the stockmarket is now the equivelent of bitcoin; just a figment of value where rich people drive up costs. Just like a car is _invaluable_ to you not because of it's material value but because what it does out strips it's raw goods, facebook is mostly a bunch of tiny bubbles. So you ask yourself, _if this thing disappeared tomorrow_, what would be the actual loss. It's definitely not it's valuation.
  - Avicebron 4mo ago
    The ranch in hawaii is a real asset...
    - therealdrag0 4mo ago
      It could certainly not fund Hawaii’s department of education for a single year. And what would you do the next year after selling it and spending the money?
      - Avicebron 4mo ago
        Move on to the next valuable thing he owns? Sell that, rinse and repeat until it's all gone? Doesn't seem difficult..
        sokoloff 4mo ago
        Maybe we should start with a smaller prototype and test the theory on your or my assets. Still seem like a good idea?
      - cyanydeez 4mo ago
        use it for housing more than 1 person.
KetoManx64 4mo ago
How much of your money do you spend on paying for kids school lunches, paying medical bills of terminally ill kids and paying off the student loans of graduates? It's very easy to say that someone/some oeganization's wealth should be confiscated, yet I have yet to see those proposing it actually putting any of their own money where their mouth is.
- piva00 4mo ago
  > How much of your money do you spend on paying for kids school lunches, paying medical bills of terminally ill kids and paying off the student loans of graduates? At least in the society I live all of those are partially paid by me through taxes. I'm very glad to do it since the existence of kids school lunches, free healthcare (including for the terminally ill), and free universities make my life much better since society as a whole is better off. Even as an immigrant which did not use any of those services, I'm glad to do my part to pay for them, it's just the cost of a good society.
  - KetoManx64 4mo ago
    So you're just making the money that you are forced by the government to pay or face going to prison into a virtue. Do you actually put any of your own money to help support children/sick individuals other than just getting the money forcefully taken from you and being told that it's totally going to the kids/healtchare, while 50% of it gets burned up by government beurocrats?
    - piva00 4mo ago
      I specifically said "I gladly pay it", it's not the threat of imprisonment which compels me to pay my taxes. Instead it's all the benefits I see from my taxes around me: education, transportation, public amenities, healthcare, so on and so forth. Each aspect being taken care of improves society, the holistic whole is larger than the sum of its parts, there is synergy when your population is educated, don't need to spend lots in transportation, lives in great well-taken care of urban environments, can access well-maintained public parks, pools, sports facilities, don't need to be afraid of getting sick, etc. I do actually also spend my own money in monthly charitable donations, including the UNICEF. I think it's a basic prerogative that when you make enough money for living comfortably you should also find charities you trust and support them. > getting the money forcefully taken from you and being told that it's totally going to the kids/healtchare, while 50% of it gets burned up by government beurocrats? You don't even know where I live to be able to say what percentage is burnt or spent in bureaucracy. It's unfortunate your view of government seems to be based on an inefficient and ineffective one, perhaps it's your experience (and it's my experience in my home country) but by being blindly ideological about it without ever experiencing a somewhat functioning government you are missing out.
Rebuff5007 4mo ago
$80 billion written off for the metaverse. Think about the number of kids that were harmed being fed ads and nonsense content to enable this... this a scandal IMO.

by shimman 4mo ago

Avicebron 4mo ago

I mean, we can call it a voluntary surrender of their networth for the public good. How many school teachers could be funded by splitting and selling his ranch in hawaii

cyanydeez 4mo ago
So, for one: the stockmarket is now the equivelent of bitcoin; just a figment of value where rich people drive up costs. Just like a car is _invaluable_ to you not because of it's material value but because what it does out strips it's raw goods, facebook is mostly a bunch of tiny bubbles. So you ask yourself, _if this thing disappeared tomorrow_, what would be the actual loss. It's definitely not it's valuation.
- Avicebron 4mo ago
  The ranch in hawaii is a real asset...
  - therealdrag0 4mo ago
    It could certainly not fund Hawaii’s department of education for a single year. And what would you do the next year after selling it and spending the money?
    - Avicebron 4mo ago
      Move on to the next valuable thing he owns? Sell that, rinse and repeat until it's all gone? Doesn't seem difficult..
      - sokoloff 4mo ago
        Maybe we should start with a smaller prototype and test the theory on your or my assets. Still seem like a good idea?
    - cyanydeez 4mo ago
      use it for housing more than 1 person.

KetoManx64 4mo ago

How much of your money do you spend on paying for kids school lunches, paying medical bills of terminally ill kids and paying off the student loans of graduates? It's very easy to say that someone/some oeganization's wealth should be confiscated, yet I have yet to see those proposing it actually putting any of their own money where their mouth is.

piva00 4mo ago
> How much of your money do you spend on paying for kids school lunches, paying medical bills of terminally ill kids and paying off the student loans of graduates? At least in the society I live all of those are partially paid by me through taxes. I'm very glad to do it since the existence of kids school lunches, free healthcare (including for the terminally ill), and free universities make my life much better since society as a whole is better off. Even as an immigrant which did not use any of those services, I'm glad to do my part to pay for them, it's just the cost of a good society.
- KetoManx64 4mo ago
  So you're just making the money that you are forced by the government to pay or face going to prison into a virtue. Do you actually put any of your own money to help support children/sick individuals other than just getting the money forcefully taken from you and being told that it's totally going to the kids/healtchare, while 50% of it gets burned up by government beurocrats?
  - piva00 4mo ago
    I specifically said "I gladly pay it", it's not the threat of imprisonment which compels me to pay my taxes. Instead it's all the benefits I see from my taxes around me: education, transportation, public amenities, healthcare, so on and so forth. Each aspect being taken care of improves society, the holistic whole is larger than the sum of its parts, there is synergy when your population is educated, don't need to spend lots in transportation, lives in great well-taken care of urban environments, can access well-maintained public parks, pools, sports facilities, don't need to be afraid of getting sick, etc. I do actually also spend my own money in monthly charitable donations, including the UNICEF. I think it's a basic prerogative that when you make enough money for living comfortably you should also find charities you trust and support them. > getting the money forcefully taken from you and being told that it's totally going to the kids/healtchare, while 50% of it gets burned up by government beurocrats? You don't even know where I live to be able to say what percentage is burnt or spent in bureaucracy. It's unfortunate your view of government seems to be based on an inefficient and ineffective one, perhaps it's your experience (and it's my experience in my home country) but by being blindly ideological about it without ever experiencing a somewhat functioning government you are missing out.

Rebuff5007 4mo ago

$80 billion written off for the metaverse. Think about the number of kids that were harmed being fed ads and nonsense content to enable this... this a scandal IMO.