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What Wayland Means for Developers

33 points by CrankyBear 14y ago

ErikAugust 14y ago
Wayland and Weston. A MetroWest Boston thing?
- kibwen 14y ago
  "The name "Wayland" comes from the town of Wayland, Massachusetts. Høgsberg was driving through that town when the concepts behind Wayland "crystallized"." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_proto...
  - ErikAugust 14y ago
    Ha, I figured. Thanks for the reference.
Nursie 14y ago
Is it wrong to say 'hopefully nothing much' ? I mean, unless you're a windowing toolkit dev, in which case it probably means a lot of work. And I know his is almost as much of a cliche as Gnome 3 bashing, but have there been any developments (other than a one-off POC) where remoting is concerned? I've been using that a lot this week.
- anonymous 14y ago
  Hopefully all this work will only translate to changing the API used by Qt and GTK to draw on screen and not a complete overhaul of X11. They'll take my wm from my cold dead hands.
  - aidenn0 14y ago
    Did you read the article? All WMs will need to be rewritten, and must do compositing.
sciurus 14y ago
Just a few paragraphs in, and I've stopped reading. This article is terrible. The author seems to neither understand who's driving the Wayland project nor the technical details of it. Case in point- "Let’s start by considering what an end user will see. In casual language, future releases of Ubuntu will base their graphics on Wayland rather than X. Since Wayland is designed for 3D displays, the Linux applications of the future will look three-dimensional!"
cs702 14y ago
TL;DR: Developers of graphical user environments like Ubuntu Unity will gain the ability to deliver smooth, fluid experiences via the 3D compositor; application developers will gain the freedom to do whatever they want with their applications' graphics buffers, because the compositor will be seamlessly combining all buffers on screen.
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slacka 14y ago
Yet another fluff article about Wayland. It's too bad. I'd love to see some analysis of its potential and a comparison with OS X Quartz and Windows aero/WDM. How does the performance compare to X? What GPU features does Wayland expose that X doesn't?

33 points by CrankyBear 14y ago

ErikAugust 14y ago

Wayland and Weston. A MetroWest Boston thing?

kibwen 14y ago
"The name "Wayland" comes from the town of Wayland, Massachusetts. Høgsberg was driving through that town when the concepts behind Wayland "crystallized"." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_proto...
- ErikAugust 14y ago
  Ha, I figured. Thanks for the reference.

Nursie 14y ago

Is it wrong to say 'hopefully nothing much' ? I mean, unless you're a windowing toolkit dev, in which case it probably means a lot of work. And I know his is almost as much of a cliche as Gnome 3 bashing, but have there been any developments (other than a one-off POC) where remoting is concerned? I've been using that a lot this week.

anonymous 14y ago
Hopefully all this work will only translate to changing the API used by Qt and GTK to draw on screen and not a complete overhaul of X11. They'll take my wm from my cold dead hands.
- aidenn0 14y ago
  Did you read the article? All WMs will need to be rewritten, and must do compositing.

sciurus 14y ago

Just a few paragraphs in, and I've stopped reading. This article is terrible. The author seems to neither understand who's driving the Wayland project nor the technical details of it. Case in point- "Let’s start by considering what an end user will see. In casual language, future releases of Ubuntu will base their graphics on Wayland rather than X. Since Wayland is designed for 3D displays, the Linux applications of the future will look three-dimensional!"

cs702 14y ago

TL;DR: Developers of graphical user environments like Ubuntu Unity will gain the ability to deliver smooth, fluid experiences via the 3D compositor; application developers will gain the freedom to do whatever they want with their applications' graphics buffers, because the compositor will be seamlessly combining all buffers on screen.

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slacka 14y ago

Yet another fluff article about Wayland. It's too bad. I'd love to see some analysis of its potential and a comparison with OS X Quartz and Windows aero/WDM. How does the performance compare to X? What GPU features does Wayland expose that X doesn't?