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Find me a Public health commercial or flyer that links to the VAERS/AEMS/MDR database? Can you find one that even links to the trial results?

estearum 4mo ago
VAERS is a super early signal self-reported database, why on earth would anyone link to it for public consumption? Should they also link to reddit.com/r/hypochondriac? VAERS should exist and researcher should (and do) pay attention to it, but it's absolutely not anything close to an actual source of actual information. Trial results, yes, the literal vaccine recommendation bulletins link to their backing data: https://www.cdc.gov/acip/grade/covid-19-pfizer-biontech-vaccine.html https://www.cdc.gov/acip/grade/covid-19-pfizer-biontech-vacc...
- s1artibartfast 4mo ago
  Is that a mass consumption commercial or flyer? Im not claiming data is never presented. Im not claiming data is never available.
  - estearum 4mo ago
    It is the top Google result for "pfizer COVID vaccine study CDC" And yes, ACIP regularly puts out commercials and flyers. They are not 50 minutes nor 230 pages long, but they contain all the relevant info someone needs at a glance, and if they wish to go further then they are directed to ACIP resources like the one I listed. "The government needs to inject knowledge directly into my brain against my will, without curiosity, and despite my lack of background expertise!"
    - s1artibartfast 4mo ago
      I dont think you are engaging in good faith. Information being available online does not help the issue of lack of trust in public health officials, and the sentiment that they are lying or playing hide the ball. This sentiment is a real issue the nation is facing. The pandemic had several high-profile examples of Public Health officials knowingly misleading and lying to the public. That's going to take a lot of work to undo
      - estearum 4mo ago
        Yes, it's a sentiment generated by this "I need information injected directly into my brain attitude, and failure to achieve that is very possibly maybe kinda hinting at something nefarious!" > The pandemic had several high-profile examples of Public Health officials knowingly misleading and lying to the public. That's going to take a lot of work to undo Not really. It had several high-profile examples of public health officials making mostly-reasonably hedged statements under conditions of uncertainty, and then people actually playing game-of-telephone into thinking they said things they didn't say. Can you provide a few of these "several" examples of public health officials knowingly making false statements?

estearum 4mo ago

VAERS is a super early signal self-reported database, why on earth would anyone link to it for public consumption? Should they also link to reddit.com/r/hypochondriac? VAERS should exist and researcher should (and do) pay attention to it, but it's absolutely not anything close to an actual source of actual information. Trial results, yes, the literal vaccine recommendation bulletins link to their backing data: https://www.cdc.gov/acip/grade/covid-19-pfizer-biontech-vaccine.html https://www.cdc.gov/acip/grade/covid-19-pfizer-biontech-vacc...

s1artibartfast 4mo ago
Is that a mass consumption commercial or flyer? Im not claiming data is never presented. Im not claiming data is never available.
- estearum 4mo ago
  It is the top Google result for "pfizer COVID vaccine study CDC" And yes, ACIP regularly puts out commercials and flyers. They are not 50 minutes nor 230 pages long, but they contain all the relevant info someone needs at a glance, and if they wish to go further then they are directed to ACIP resources like the one I listed. "The government needs to inject knowledge directly into my brain against my will, without curiosity, and despite my lack of background expertise!"
  - s1artibartfast 4mo ago
    I dont think you are engaging in good faith. Information being available online does not help the issue of lack of trust in public health officials, and the sentiment that they are lying or playing hide the ball. This sentiment is a real issue the nation is facing. The pandemic had several high-profile examples of Public Health officials knowingly misleading and lying to the public. That's going to take a lot of work to undo
    - estearum 4mo ago
      Yes, it's a sentiment generated by this "I need information injected directly into my brain attitude, and failure to achieve that is very possibly maybe kinda hinting at something nefarious!" > The pandemic had several high-profile examples of Public Health officials knowingly misleading and lying to the public. That's going to take a lot of work to undo Not really. It had several high-profile examples of public health officials making mostly-reasonably hedged statements under conditions of uncertainty, and then people actually playing game-of-telephone into thinking they said things they didn't say. Can you provide a few of these "several" examples of public health officials knowingly making false statements?