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Certain cultures teach that diversity is a bad thing to be feared and extinguished. Diversity is only a good thing when your mind has been poisoned by "educatio
by vitally3643 3mo ago
Certain cultures teach that diversity is a bad thing to be feared and extinguished. Diversity is only a good thing when your mind has been poisoned by "education" and "experience".
It requires an open mind to see diverse experiences as a good thing, and certain cultures think having citizens with open minds is an unprofitable way to run a society.
- umeshunni 3mo ago[flagged]
- frereubu 3mo agoYou look around the world, including the rise of far-right parties across the Western world who talk about the "great replacement" conspiracy theory, and the first example you reach for is Islamic cultures?
- umeshunni 3mo agoConsidered that there are organizations like the Taliban and Boko Haram that rule entire countries and regions and have anti-education as a principle, yes it's those cultures that I reach for.
- ChrisRR 3mo agoI'm fairly sure they were referring to the americans that this post is about
- kelvinjps10 3mo agoThis culture they inherited from the British that annihilated the indigenous population compared with the Spanish or Portuguese that breeded with the native population
- vitally3643 3mo agoNo, the Spanish did plenty of genocide as well.
- kelvinjps10 3mo agoIm not denying that but still the they had a higher offspring with the native comparable to the approach of the British of removing most of the indigenous population
- kelvinjps10 3mo agoAnd in the US you can see so many different cultures in one place
- LadyCailin 3mo agoYou’d be surprised how much radical Islam and the American far right have in common.
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- freehorse 3mo agoHistorically many (predominantly muslim) places in near and middle east have been very diverse, though maybe not exactly the kind of diversity usually conceptualised in the west. If anything, the idea of homogeneous nation states is more like rooted in the enlightenment.
- umeshunni 3mo ago[flagged]
- mghackerlady 3mo agoExtreme Islam acts like that, as does extreme Christianity or any extreme religion. Out of all the Muslims I've met and all the Christians I've met, the Muslims have been by far the more tolerant (granted, I live in the US so there is a very obvious bias in both directions)
- umeshunni 3mo ago[flagged]
- dgellow 3mo ago> If anything, the idea of homogeneous nation states is more like rooted in the enlightenment. The seeds were planted during the enlightenment period but I believe the raise of nationalism is generally considered post-enlightenment
- snowpid 3mo agoI think you make an too easy argument: Compared to e.g. Christian places in Europe where people still the same tongue like before the Christianisation (roughly speaking), Aramic, Demotic or Berbic languages, once majority languages are now minority languages in Arabic enviroments. Ironically Aramic and Demotic are spoken mostly by Christian minorities. Also I see the Islamic movement in recent years pushing for Islamic homogeneous countries and driving ethnic, religious, language and sexual minorities out of their homelands (mainly into Europe). Compare to today (often secular) European counterparts Arabic nations are homogenous and root cause was Anti enlightenment ideologies.
- throwaway2037 3mo ago> Certain cultures teach that diversity is a bad thing to be feared and extinguished. Ok, I take the bait. Which ones?
- tpoacher 3mo agoIs it bait? I'm pretty sure it's a reasonably factual, albeit general claim. Asking chatGPT for country-specific examples for instance gives this: > Yes—some countries have (at various times, and in some cases still today) adopted policies aimed at making the population more “homogeneous,” through segregation, assimilation pressure, or exclusion/deportation. Concrete examples: - South Africa (apartheid era, 1948–1990s): An official system of racial classification and enforced separation (“separate development”). - Germany (Nazi period, 1933–1945): State ideology enforced a racial hierarchy and pursued forced removal and mass murder of those deemed “undesirable.” - Israel (state policies affecting Palestinian citizens and occupied territory, especially since 1967): Includes laws and administrative practices that many observers describe as producing or enforcing unequal status by group; key issues include citizenship status differences and restrictions tied to national/ethnic identity. - Myanmar (Rohingya): Policies and law enforcement that stripped/blocked citizenship for Rohingya and enabled persecution, culminating in mass violence and displacement. - Canada (Indigenous assimilation policy, especially 19th–20th century into 1996): Forced assimilation via residential schools and bans on language/cultural practices; many have characterized this as cultural genocide. - United States (Jim Crow + earlier immigration/citizenship rules; and internment): Historical legal regimes created segregation and restricted citizenship/naturalization based on race/national origin (e.g., earlier Asian-exclusion immigration restrictions). You may disagree with some examples on this list, but I'm sure even you would consider that the first two are clear examples of diversity-fearing 'cultures' rather than 'bait'. And this is even before considering the wider definition of the word 'culture', which can be even more exclusionary.
- dhosek 3mo agoI would edit the US item to remove “historical” given the current efforts to reinstate everything in parentheses and add new ones.
- Redoubts 3mo agoOk sure. The Home Secretary just banned new asylum seeker housing near schools and nurseries, fyi.