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While I sympathize with the general negative outrage towards this change, I truly believe that people here fail to empathize with the mainstream users of Androi

by yunohn 3mo ago

While I sympathize with the general negative outrage towards this change, I truly believe that people here fail to empathize with the mainstream users of Android phones. I personally have seen every single older relative and non-tech friend, end up installing bloateare, spyware, and malware inadvertently - because they have no idea how anything in the tech domain works. And given the widespread popularity of Android (globally 70% vs iOS at 30% market share) and even moreso in lower income demographics, it also leads to rampant piracy of obviously non-essential apps like games and streaming (eg Spotify). In fact, even here on HN, almost everyone who has given their parents an iPhone has extolled the virtues of a secured AppStore/device and the peace of mind it brings. While there may someday be a way to support both the average user and the HN power user, we are not there yet. It’s hard for me to outright reject Google/Android attempts to secure people’s devices.

rtsil 3mo ago
They can lock down the Play store completely, that's what 99% of people and the people most vulnerable to malware are using. The problem is extending that to F-Droid and other alternative services.
Zak 3mo ago
The only time I've actually seen Android malware in the wild, it was because my mother installed a homescreen flashlight toggle widget from the Play Store that also displayed ads on the lockscreen. That was forbidden under Play Store rules, but there it was. I replaced it with something from F-Droid. The Play Store still has a problem with shady apps years later. If Google wants to be more like Apple, they should start with better curation in their own store.
chrismorgan 3mo ago
I’ve seen a fair bit of bloatware, spyware and what I’d count as malware on people’s Android phones. Every last piece of it has come with the OS or from the Play Store.

by yunohn 3mo ago

rtsil 3mo ago

They can lock down the Play store completely, that's what 99% of people and the people most vulnerable to malware are using. The problem is extending that to F-Droid and other alternative services.

Zak 3mo ago

The only time I've actually seen Android malware in the wild, it was because my mother installed a homescreen flashlight toggle widget from the Play Store that also displayed ads on the lockscreen. That was forbidden under Play Store rules, but there it was. I replaced it with something from F-Droid. The Play Store still has a problem with shady apps years later. If Google wants to be more like Apple, they should start with better curation in their own store.

chrismorgan 3mo ago

I’ve seen a fair bit of bloatware, spyware and what I’d count as malware on people’s Android phones. Every last piece of it has come with the OS or from the Play Store.