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"they don't make the same mistakes twice." But they do. Even if we limit ourselves to post-1949 China. Once Mao died, the Party decided to never allow a singl

"they don't make the same mistakes twice." But they do. Even if we limit ourselves to post-1949 China. Once Mao died, the Party decided to never allow a single leader to arise again, and switched to an oligarchic model. But Xi was able to break that system and once again you have a sort of cult of personality with One Dear Leader at the top, although we have to admit that Xi is a lot saner than Mao ever was. But the negatives are once again rearing their head, worship of a single person, personal loyalty triumphing over competence, and the Chinese economic machine, subject to whims of a single person, seems to be slowing down.

cultofmetatron 4mo ago
> worship of a single person, personal loyalty triumphing over competence, and the Chinese economic machine, subject to whims of a single person, seems to be slowing down. The whole world is swinging in that direction. its not like the US is any better in that respect in our current political climate.
- inglor_cz 4mo ago
  I would say that is swing as already over and the US was a late comer to the trend. Of the ur-strongmen of the democratic world, Orbán just got the boot and Erdogan's genuine popularity peak is also long over, although he might be able to hold on power by simply hijacking the state and jailing his opponents. And there are quite obvious marks of Trump fatigue on the non-MAGA American right as well. The one genuinely popular populist leader who seems to be holding is Modi in India.
- graemep 4mo ago
  The difference is that in the US there is plenty of criticism or, and open opposition to, the leader, or to any leader. You have courts that will restrain the government (as with the recent ruling on birthright citizenship). I suspect Trump would like to be worshipped, but he is not being very successful at getting it outside a small group.
kachnuv_ocasek 4mo ago
> once again you have a sort of cult of personality with One Dear Leader at the top Sounds hell of a lot like USA right now.
- inglor_cz 4mo ago
  Technically, it would be kachní ocásek, not kachnuv. Yeah, the US has been flirting with similar approaches quite heavily, but I don't believe that Trump will get 15 or more years in power out of it like Xi managed to.

cultofmetatron 4mo ago

> worship of a single person, personal loyalty triumphing over competence, and the Chinese economic machine, subject to whims of a single person, seems to be slowing down. The whole world is swinging in that direction. its not like the US is any better in that respect in our current political climate.

inglor_cz 4mo ago
I would say that is swing as already over and the US was a late comer to the trend. Of the ur-strongmen of the democratic world, Orbán just got the boot and Erdogan's genuine popularity peak is also long over, although he might be able to hold on power by simply hijacking the state and jailing his opponents. And there are quite obvious marks of Trump fatigue on the non-MAGA American right as well. The one genuinely popular populist leader who seems to be holding is Modi in India.
graemep 4mo ago
The difference is that in the US there is plenty of criticism or, and open opposition to, the leader, or to any leader. You have courts that will restrain the government (as with the recent ruling on birthright citizenship). I suspect Trump would like to be worshipped, but he is not being very successful at getting it outside a small group.

kachnuv_ocasek 4mo ago

> once again you have a sort of cult of personality with One Dear Leader at the top Sounds hell of a lot like USA right now.

inglor_cz 4mo ago
Technically, it would be kachní ocásek, not kachnuv. Yeah, the US has been flirting with similar approaches quite heavily, but I don't believe that Trump will get 15 or more years in power out of it like Xi managed to.