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how exactly were the vaccines effective, if every single person i know who got them got covid?

by z3ratul163071 3mo ago

nesarkvechnep 3mo ago
Did they die?
- Markoff 3mo ago
  would they die if they didn't take the vaxx? plenty people who got vaxx died anyway, plenty people who got COVID died as well, some of them from COVID, most of them were just infected while dying and COVID had really nothing to do with their death, but it was needed to pump those numbers about scary dangerous COVID so govs can go on powertrips while taking pocket money from pharma lobby
  - xboxnolifes 3mo ago
    At a population level, people who were vaccinated died at lower rates. We have numbers on this stuff. It was pretty easy to find during covid and I imagine you could find it with a quick Google search now if you'd like.
  - davidhalter 3mo ago
    The hospitalization of unvaccinated people vs. vaccinated people was 10.5 times higher [1]. Lethality was 7 times higher if you did not take the vaccine [2]. I think we also have to remember that hospitalizations where the reason why a lot of mandates where enacted in the first place. Politicians where afraid that the hospitals would run out of capacity. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9459904/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9459904/ [2] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9786706/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9786706/
fivetenpen 3mo ago
They were never meant to prevent people from getting COVID. They were meant to prevent people from dying due to COVID. The fact they were able to tell you they had COVID means it was a resounding success (not dead).
- bad_username 3mo ago
  > They were never meant to prevent people from getting COVID. "COVID-19 vaccination will help keep you from getting COVID-19" - https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/97780/ https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/97780/ You see, this kind of lying and gaslighting is exactly what feeds the distrust in the government and scientific establishment in general public. No number of studies is going to reverse that any time soon.
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  - antoniojtorres 3mo ago
    They will HELP, they never claimed you would be IMMUNE. it’s in the text you’re citing!
  - jasonvorhe 3mo ago
    In every public hearing, all pharma execs stated that they never tested and verified that they prevent transmission.
- Markoff 3mo ago
  there are literally people in this discussion talking about these vaccines preventing COVID spread, parroting this complete nonsense politicians and "experts" made when they pushed these "vaccines"
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dopa42365 3mo ago
A million Americans chose death from very effective (preventable) disease instead. That's how.
root_axis 3mo ago
Is the rabies vaccine not effective in your view?
antoniojtorres 3mo ago
Astounding that this question is being asked (presumably) in earnest after the whole ordeal we went through. Wow.
boruto 3mo ago
I took two doses of mRNA vaccine, I still got covid, the fever, the pains it was horrible, I was in a foreign country alone where I didn't speak the language. I say this because that was the scariest moment of my life, I am thankful to the people who invented them. I honestly believe it would have been worse had I not taken the vaccine.
phendrenad2 3mo ago
It saved a lot of people and gave COVID time to mutate into a relatively benign form.

how exactly were the vaccines effective, if every single person i know who got them got covid?

nesarkvechnep 3mo ago

Did they die?

Markoff 3mo ago
would they die if they didn't take the vaxx? plenty people who got vaxx died anyway, plenty people who got COVID died as well, some of them from COVID, most of them were just infected while dying and COVID had really nothing to do with their death, but it was needed to pump those numbers about scary dangerous COVID so govs can go on powertrips while taking pocket money from pharma lobby
- xboxnolifes 3mo ago
  At a population level, people who were vaccinated died at lower rates. We have numbers on this stuff. It was pretty easy to find during covid and I imagine you could find it with a quick Google search now if you'd like.
- davidhalter 3mo ago
  The hospitalization of unvaccinated people vs. vaccinated people was 10.5 times higher [1]. Lethality was 7 times higher if you did not take the vaccine [2]. I think we also have to remember that hospitalizations where the reason why a lot of mandates where enacted in the first place. Politicians where afraid that the hospitals would run out of capacity. [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9459904/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9459904/ [2] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9786706/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9786706/

fivetenpen 3mo ago

They were never meant to prevent people from getting COVID. They were meant to prevent people from dying due to COVID. The fact they were able to tell you they had COVID means it was a resounding success (not dead).

bad_username 3mo ago
> They were never meant to prevent people from getting COVID. "COVID-19 vaccination will help keep you from getting COVID-19" - https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/97780/ https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/97780/ You see, this kind of lying and gaslighting is exactly what feeds the distrust in the government and scientific establishment in general public. No number of studies is going to reverse that any time soon.
- deleted 3mo ago
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- antoniojtorres 3mo ago
  They will HELP, they never claimed you would be IMMUNE. it’s in the text you’re citing!
- jasonvorhe 3mo ago
  In every public hearing, all pharma execs stated that they never tested and verified that they prevent transmission.
Markoff 3mo ago
there are literally people in this discussion talking about these vaccines preventing COVID spread, parroting this complete nonsense politicians and "experts" made when they pushed these "vaccines"

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dopa42365 3mo ago

A million Americans chose death from very effective (preventable) disease instead. That's how.

root_axis 3mo ago

Is the rabies vaccine not effective in your view?

antoniojtorres 3mo ago

Astounding that this question is being asked (presumably) in earnest after the whole ordeal we went through. Wow.

boruto 3mo ago

I took two doses of mRNA vaccine, I still got covid, the fever, the pains it was horrible, I was in a foreign country alone where I didn't speak the language. I say this because that was the scariest moment of my life, I am thankful to the people who invented them. I honestly believe it would have been worse had I not taken the vaccine.

phendrenad2 3mo ago

It saved a lot of people and gave COVID time to mutate into a relatively benign form.