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I took a brief look at some of the products like coffee and im not sure they are competitive. What exactly is the premium coming from ?

malvim 4mo ago
Probably from actually paying human beings for their work
- zuzululu 4mo ago
  Are you saying that products outside this directory are from people who you don't consider human beings ?
  - movedx01 4mo ago
    More likely implying they are not being compensated fairly.
  - pseudalopex 4mo ago
    Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
_factor 4mo ago
Real coffee beans not genetically engineered to grow fast with caffeine densities high enough to make explosives out of.
- zuzululu 4mo ago
  Do you have any evidence to back up your claims ?
komali2 4mo ago
I've been thinking about this recently: I think our economy is fake. Restaurants are expensive lately, but still, as a former restaurant owner, even the expensive 10$ takeout burrito I don't think would be possible without the great many laws the supply chain breaks. Undocumented labor from the farms through to the restaurants, for starters. Then the fact that the equipment we use is built in places that don't have our labor or health and safety laws, which lets those places manufacture for much cheaper prices, which feels like cheating. If we actually had a level playing field and didn't break laws, I don't think most of the luxuries we enjoy could actually exist at anywhere near current prices (and thus not at all).
one33seven 4mo ago
Coffee is much cheaper with slavery or ultra heavy exploitation. Once the workers have a say in it, the prices normalize.
- zuzululu 4mo ago
  Farmers typically retain only around 1% to 10% of the final retail price wether its labeled "ethical" or "co-op" or whatever is teh new "organic". Even if you double the wages paid to pickers, the final cost to the consumer only needs to increase by a few cents, the rest are margins captured by simply labelling the coffee beans I know because I used to work for a trader that specialized in coffee futures

malvim 4mo ago

Probably from actually paying human beings for their work

zuzululu 4mo ago
Are you saying that products outside this directory are from people who you don't consider human beings ?
- movedx01 4mo ago
  More likely implying they are not being compensated fairly.
- pseudalopex 4mo ago
  Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

_factor 4mo ago

Real coffee beans not genetically engineered to grow fast with caffeine densities high enough to make explosives out of.

zuzululu 4mo ago
Do you have any evidence to back up your claims ?

komali2 4mo ago

I've been thinking about this recently: I think our economy is fake. Restaurants are expensive lately, but still, as a former restaurant owner, even the expensive 10$ takeout burrito I don't think would be possible without the great many laws the supply chain breaks. Undocumented labor from the farms through to the restaurants, for starters. Then the fact that the equipment we use is built in places that don't have our labor or health and safety laws, which lets those places manufacture for much cheaper prices, which feels like cheating. If we actually had a level playing field and didn't break laws, I don't think most of the luxuries we enjoy could actually exist at anywhere near current prices (and thus not at all).

one33seven 4mo ago

Coffee is much cheaper with slavery or ultra heavy exploitation. Once the workers have a say in it, the prices normalize.

zuzululu 4mo ago
Farmers typically retain only around 1% to 10% of the final retail price wether its labeled "ethical" or "co-op" or whatever is teh new "organic". Even if you double the wages paid to pickers, the final cost to the consumer only needs to increase by a few cents, the rest are margins captured by simply labelling the coffee beans I know because I used to work for a trader that specialized in coffee futures