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OTOH: “our product is so good it was banned for being too good” is the best advertising possible. OpenAI would kill to get that. I’m not falling over myself to

OTOH: “our product is so good it was banned for being too good” is the best advertising possible. OpenAI would kill to get that. I’m not falling over myself to test out Sonnet 5, but I am very interested in Fable.

bel8 4mo ago
> OpenAI would kill to get that. I have news for you, from 5 days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48690101 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48690101 "U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"
- digitaltrees 4mo ago
  First mover got all the power of the narrative.
- dghlsakjg 4mo ago
  "W have to go through a regulatory approval process like everyone else" is so much less sexy than "Our model was so powerful that it got banned by the government after a few hours and now all our competitors have to go through a regulatory process invented because of us"
  - bel8 4mo ago
    There's nothing sexy about it. From the get go they were accused of FUD drama and that it backfired as predicted. Now what I see in reality is that Anthropic mostly reaped more resentment from their poor marketing attempt. And their model is basically useless or unreliable from being lobotomized by guardrails. Subscription folks barely have access to the model. Some report a single prompt before hitting weekly limit. And that's when it works instead of downgrading. If that is a first movers play, it's a disastrous one. How sexy do you think this guy finds Anthropic now? > Today I told Sonnet (!) to use a browser MCP to enter a username and password for the project it is working on, it told me that it can't do that because it violates its security protocol. > This worked fine before. I love Claude, I have stuck with it even through people saying Codex is better but this is definitely getting to be the last straw. Meanwhile I can tell GLM 5.2 to decompile and crack anything I want with tools like IDA MCP and packet sniffing and it just works. Let alone code.
- kelvinjps10 4mo ago
  It didn't feel the same
- sigmar 4mo ago
  that's an obsequious Altman, not their model being banned for being too good
usef- 4mo ago
I really don't think this is effective advertising, reactions have been negative virtually everywhere. The security bugs were real (see the Open Source projects struggling to keep up) so I think gradual rollout was sensible originally before the ban. But people have always resented safety steps.
- dghlsakjg 4mo ago
  Their valuation and revenue don't reflect that. For the purposes of technical excellence, you are absolutely correct that this has been bad. For the purposes of money-getting, this has very much been a case of "there's no such thing as bad publicity". Anthropic is very much in the money-getting business right now.

bel8 4mo ago

> OpenAI would kill to get that. I have news for you, from 5 days ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48690101 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48690101 "U.S. government will decide who gets to use GPT-5.6"

digitaltrees 4mo ago
First mover got all the power of the narrative.
dghlsakjg 4mo ago
"W have to go through a regulatory approval process like everyone else" is so much less sexy than "Our model was so powerful that it got banned by the government after a few hours and now all our competitors have to go through a regulatory process invented because of us"
- bel8 4mo ago
  There's nothing sexy about it. From the get go they were accused of FUD drama and that it backfired as predicted. Now what I see in reality is that Anthropic mostly reaped more resentment from their poor marketing attempt. And their model is basically useless or unreliable from being lobotomized by guardrails. Subscription folks barely have access to the model. Some report a single prompt before hitting weekly limit. And that's when it works instead of downgrading. If that is a first movers play, it's a disastrous one. How sexy do you think this guy finds Anthropic now? > Today I told Sonnet (!) to use a browser MCP to enter a username and password for the project it is working on, it told me that it can't do that because it violates its security protocol. > This worked fine before. I love Claude, I have stuck with it even through people saying Codex is better but this is definitely getting to be the last straw. Meanwhile I can tell GLM 5.2 to decompile and crack anything I want with tools like IDA MCP and packet sniffing and it just works. Let alone code.
kelvinjps10 4mo ago
It didn't feel the same
sigmar 4mo ago
that's an obsequious Altman, not their model being banned for being too good

usef- 4mo ago

I really don't think this is effective advertising, reactions have been negative virtually everywhere. The security bugs were real (see the Open Source projects struggling to keep up) so I think gradual rollout was sensible originally before the ban. But people have always resented safety steps.

dghlsakjg 4mo ago
Their valuation and revenue don't reflect that. For the purposes of technical excellence, you are absolutely correct that this has been bad. For the purposes of money-getting, this has very much been a case of "there's no such thing as bad publicity". Anthropic is very much in the money-getting business right now.