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> Because it's a common phrase? I know it's a common phrase (albeit sa uniquely american one? Never heard this from e.g. Brits). I'm asking how it came to be t
by gspr 3mo ago
> Because it's a common phrase?
I know it's a common phrase (albeit sa uniquely american one? Never heard this from e.g. Brits). I'm asking how it came to be that way when it seemingly makes no sense.
> Same as "get carded"?
No, because "being carded" (if I understand correctly) is something that does in fact happen to you. In trespassing, you are the one doing the trespassing (to something/someone else). That's why I find it so weird that Americans turn the subject into object in the sentence.
> English is flexible; almost any combination of words can start to have meaning
Sure. But taking a perfectly fine sentence and turning the subject into an object (when the physical reality is unchanged) seems strange, and warrants curiosity.
- bentley 3mo agoTrespassing (intransitive) is different from trespassing someone (transitive). It’s not unusual for a verb to mean something different when used transitively versus when used intransitively. To “trespass” someone (transitive) means to ban that someone from a property. Wiktionary provides examples of “trespass” used in this sense as early as 1946. > albeit sa uniquely american one? Never heard this from e.g. Brits According to this lexicography blog post, datasets reveal the transitive definition to be most common in New Zealand. https://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/dictionary/trespassers-will-be-trespassed/ https://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/dictionary/trespassers-wi... Here are some examples of it being used on a NZ website: https://www.police.govt.nz/use-105/trespass https://www.police.govt.nz/use-105/trespass
- gspr 3mo agoVery interesting! This one finally answers my question! In summary: (1) It's not an American thing at all. I was wrong. (2) It's not new. I was wrong. (3) It has its roots in authorities charging or threatening to charge someone with the act of trespassing. I learned something today :-) TLDR: "I was trespassed" means "I was charged with the crime of trespassing" (or "threatened with being charged with the crime of tresapssing").
- NopIdoN 3mo agoYeah like "I was murdered"
- NopIdoN 3mo ago> It’s not unusual for a verb to mean something different when used transitively versus when used intransitively. Can you please give other examples? I can't think of any and I can't let it go
- NopIdoN 3mo agoAnyone?