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In the time it took you to type that, your hourly market comp went down another basis point. I am appalled none of this is clicking with you anti-AI folks. Thi

by echelon 4mo ago

In the time it took you to type that, your hourly market comp went down another basis point. I am appalled none of this is clicking with you anti-AI folks. This is all so exciting -- alarming even! --, and software careers are never going to be the same. I don't know how you just metaphorically stand there and act like nothing at all is happening. We've never seen anything like this in our entire lives. Some of you are standing right in front of the steam roller, yelling to all of us that steam rollers aren't real.

CookieCrisp 4mo ago
Very very fast steam rollers.
llama052 4mo ago
Did you use an LLM to write this for you? How odd. For all of you people who think these LLM models are “earth shattering” how the hell do you reconcile that it’s a net positive for anyone but those who want to consolidate knowledge and power. We are really looking at idiocracy in the making.
- tskj 4mo ago
  I guess I'll chime in as someone who thinks LLMs will be earth shattering, and specifically don't think it's a net positive for anyone but those whose power will be consolidated.
AdieuToLogic 4mo ago
Nice strawman[0], but you avoided answering my core question: Speed of what? With ad hominems and a non sequitur. How about I narrow the question with the hope it engenders a relevant response: How do LLMs increase the speed of a person understanding what needs to be done? 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
- CookieCrisp 4mo ago
  This argument feels like A: The sky is blue! B: No it's not. A: Yes, it is, please look up. B: No, you must prove it to me through reason. A: But, if you would just pretty please look up. B: No. I run a company, I've been running it for 10 years, we do alright. I'm a shitty manager. Every time I've hired developers, the business freezes. The business isn't anything super important, the main consequence of bugs is that my family loses money. Everything has always rested on my shoulders. In theory there is some path for me to become a good manager, but I never landed on it. But now, with Claude, it's great. So far Claude has paid itself off in real profits at least 20x over, and that's with significant API usage on top of the monthly sub. I can prototype new features in an afternoon that before were on my giant list of "maybe somedays if I ever get to breathe" list. Our user experience has improved in so many ways that I knew were probably worth it, if I could just find the time. Now I can. There are situations where yeah, it probably isn't ready yet. But, there are so many where it's amazing. Seriously, it's worth looking up.
  - dgellow 4mo ago
    You’re just plain wrong to assume people against agentic development do not have experience with the technology
    - CookieCrisp 4mo ago
      I think there are many valid reasons to be against them - I think a lot of them are more right than wrong. It’s the “It can’t really do much” that I think must be from people that haven’t really tried it.
  - AdieuToLogic 4mo ago
    This is a great case for the benefits of using GenAI, in that you already possess an understanding of what you want to achieve. You know what it is you want to prototype, what is on your "giant list of 'maybe somedays if I ever get to breathe' list", what you want to end up delivering. My point is and remains: A) GenAI did not give you this understanding. B) GenAI can only assist in your expressing this preexisting understanding. C) GenAI is a statistical token (text) generator and cannot, by definition, "make" a person understand what they want/need to do.

by echelon 4mo ago

CookieCrisp 4mo ago

Very very fast steam rollers.

llama052 4mo ago

Did you use an LLM to write this for you? How odd. For all of you people who think these LLM models are “earth shattering” how the hell do you reconcile that it’s a net positive for anyone but those who want to consolidate knowledge and power. We are really looking at idiocracy in the making.

tskj 4mo ago
I guess I'll chime in as someone who thinks LLMs will be earth shattering, and specifically don't think it's a net positive for anyone but those whose power will be consolidated.

AdieuToLogic 4mo ago

Nice strawman[0], but you avoided answering my core question: Speed of what? With ad hominems and a non sequitur. How about I narrow the question with the hope it engenders a relevant response: How do LLMs increase the speed of a person understanding what needs to be done? 0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

CookieCrisp 4mo ago
This argument feels like A: The sky is blue! B: No it's not. A: Yes, it is, please look up. B: No, you must prove it to me through reason. A: But, if you would just pretty please look up. B: No. I run a company, I've been running it for 10 years, we do alright. I'm a shitty manager. Every time I've hired developers, the business freezes. The business isn't anything super important, the main consequence of bugs is that my family loses money. Everything has always rested on my shoulders. In theory there is some path for me to become a good manager, but I never landed on it. But now, with Claude, it's great. So far Claude has paid itself off in real profits at least 20x over, and that's with significant API usage on top of the monthly sub. I can prototype new features in an afternoon that before were on my giant list of "maybe somedays if I ever get to breathe" list. Our user experience has improved in so many ways that I knew were probably worth it, if I could just find the time. Now I can. There are situations where yeah, it probably isn't ready yet. But, there are so many where it's amazing. Seriously, it's worth looking up.
- dgellow 4mo ago
  You’re just plain wrong to assume people against agentic development do not have experience with the technology
  - CookieCrisp 4mo ago
    I think there are many valid reasons to be against them - I think a lot of them are more right than wrong. It’s the “It can’t really do much” that I think must be from people that haven’t really tried it.
- AdieuToLogic 4mo ago
  This is a great case for the benefits of using GenAI, in that you already possess an understanding of what you want to achieve. You know what it is you want to prototype, what is on your "giant list of 'maybe somedays if I ever get to breathe' list", what you want to end up delivering. My point is and remains: A) GenAI did not give you this understanding. B) GenAI can only assist in your expressing this preexisting understanding. C) GenAI is a statistical token (text) generator and cannot, by definition, "make" a person understand what they want/need to do.