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America can switch off AI. Europe must switch gears before it's too late
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- tommica 4mo agoNah, we rather regulate ourselves out of existence. Any investment you do, the money will go to paying random taxes and fees to services that make sure you are filling the arbitrary criteria of bullshit. Maybe after that you have some pocket change to spend on your idea instead. And if you do happen to make a successful company, then the governments want a cut of that too, because making money is a no-no thing.
- retrac98 4mo agoDecisions here are made slowly, with complete information, and agreement from all parties. Once they’re made they’re then slow to change for all the same reasons. Until this changes I don’t think Europe has any hope of competing with the US or China on anything they decide is important.
- alephnerd 4mo agohttps://europe2031.ai/ https://europe2031.ai/
- seomint 4mo agoStep one: air conditioning. Step two: AI superpower.
- peterspath 4mo agoStep zero: make energy as cheap as possible... no taxes on it
- scotty79 4mo agoBasically Europe needs to become best friends with China and buy all the solar panels and all the electronics they are willing to spare. But the ineffective incumbent European industries throw rocks into those gears. Even though EU consumers are delighted with what China has to offer. I think political landscape could use consumer focused political parties. Screw the business, screw the rent-seekers, rights-holders and estate-holders. Best deal for the consumer is king. Europe is first and foremost a market. And our politics should represent that.
- KetoManx64 4mo agoSo an anarcho-capitalist society?
- inglor_cz 4mo agoIt may be necessary in some situation. If you look at current Ukraine, its drone sector is basically anarcho-capitalist. Little to no regulation, people do what they want with extremely short OODA loops. It also works in the sense that is stopped Muscovy in its tracks and Ukraine became the worldwide hub of innovation when it comes to military robots, even though it only has maybe 25 million people left in its territory, and economy the size of Nebraska. Much richer and safer countries to the west of it just cannot keep pace and resort to licensing Ukrainian designs for their own production. Including the US.
- scotty79 4mo agoAbsolutely not. Strict pro-consumer regulations, tightly following technological advancements, balancing consumer choice with consumer safety, with complete disregard for any capitalistic interests.
- stockerta 4mo agoNah, we will be fine. AI isn't sustainable, financially or otherwise. It will collapse and take a big chunk of the US economy with it.
- alephnerd 4mo agoAnthropic and OpenAI have seen consistent revenue growth, as have their Chinese peers like Alibaba and DeepSeek. While some aspects of AI are overstated, it has had a very real and tangible impact at least in the US and China in a number of white collar roles. Additonally, the fact that China is allocating $295B [0] for an AI buildout as is the US [1] and are using it to also help their domestic GreenTech and DeepTech ecosystems means the AI boom is having a downstream impact in multiple sectors. EU states already missed out on the Dotcom, Social Media, Cloud, IoT, EV, and GreenTech booms at the expense of the US and China. If your sentiment is the norm within Europe, then both the US and China are correct to view the EU states as junior partners. States that control the technological frontier also control their destiny. [0] - https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-prepares-295-billion-plan-fund-nationwide-ai-buildout-bloomberg-news-2026-06-09/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-prepares-295-billi... [1] - https://www.blackrock.com/us/individual/insights/energy-and-the-ai-buildout https://www.blackrock.com/us/individual/insights/energy-and-...
- starvar2 4mo agoI'd rather have a world without "AI" then one with. As I see it, the negatives far outstrip the positives.
- joe_mamba 4mo agoThe thing is, reality doesn't care what you'd rather have, it simply happens with or without your consent. And burying your head in the sand doesn't change anything. The right attitude for change is to see how you can get to the top of it first, to make sure you get to control the new tech in way that are ethical and congruent with your values, otherwise your rival will get to it first, and weaponize it against you if you sleep on it because you'd rather not have it.
- Havoc 4mo agoAmerica has already switched it off. Cutting edge Fable being US only was as clear of a warning shot as it gets. Especially considering China will not keep theirs open forever
- schmuhblaster 4mo agoAs a European I have long given up on any meaningful change w.r.t AI. Imho the average European is much more risk averse than the average American or Chinese. That and a plethora of other factors that have been discussed over and over again, make it unlikely that we'll see things change within the next ten years or so. Only massive and immediate threats (e.g. he crisis in Ukraine) will make people and governments reconsider their fundamental beliefs (and even then the pace of change will be slow).
- egorfine 4mo ago> immediate threats (e.g. he crisis in Ukraine) I have been invited in one of the UA/EU UAV cooperation programs. The largest government body is behind this program. The invitation was a 38-page PDF, out of which 36 pages were dedicated to regulatory compliance and <2 pages about actual requirements for the product. No, EU will not reconsider their beliefs.
- StefanBatory 4mo agoI just don't think we are able to do things. Language and countries split us apart. Americans have one big internal market. Chinese as well. Indians - also. In Europe? We just can't, you need to start in one country, you need to localise your products, then offer support in various languages, and I didn't even start to say anything about various tax laws or laws in general in other countries of the Union. I believe that's the biggest issue we have and it will never be resolved.
- pseudony 4mo agoWell India has a diverse set of languages spread across its regions. As I understand it, the degree to which English thrives there is largely because choosing any other administrative language would be seen as oppressive to the other languages. Again, only stuff I picked up from the various Indian colleagues I have had. Point being; I don’t think that is any different really from Europe. If they can manage, so can we.
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- antiloper 4mo agoEurope has no chips, no energy, no venture capital, and no training data. It is in fact too late.
- sakree 4mo agoindeed this. Idiotic policies and choices around green energy is killing europe, we struggle with energy prices in the winter for heating, nevermind energy for AI datacenters. And why would anyone start an AI company in europe? It's like picking hard mode over just doing it in the US. I honestly, see a bleak future for europe, and it saddens me as an european.
- titanomachy 4mo agoWe have nice art, though. And pretty old towns. We are well-positioned to be a Disneyland for the Chinese.
- tencentshill 4mo agoLet's let venture capital stay an American thing. High risk, high reward.
- nitwit005 4mo ago> Finally, and in parallel to this, the Commission should build a new relationship with the US. It is a hard pill to swallow: whether we like it or not, in the medium term, Europe will depend on American compute and chip infrastructure to grow its own providers at the application layer. A very long sounding "medium term".