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> hey are in the process of building a new country little by little. Eventually they will openly dismiss the US constitution. Things are really, really bad. We

> hey are in the process of building a new country little by little. Eventually they will openly dismiss the US constitution. Things are really, really bad. We are pretty much in US‘s Weimar period. Why the scaremongering? What are "they" waiting for?

matthewdgreen 4mo ago
Durable control of elections, and maybe one or two more justices.
cosmicgadget 4mo ago
Without saying I believe the statement above, boiling the frog is a legitimate tactic. Think of all the things considered normal now that would have been absurd before 2016.
superultra 4mo ago
Surely we’re aware of the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 yes? It spells out exactly what they are doing, & where they are going. Eliminating birthright citizenship is a key component dating back decades. https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/feudalism-consent-rethinking-birthright-citizenship https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/feudalism-c...
- andsoitis 4mo ago
  Thanks for posting that link. I read part of it and their reasoning strikes me as contortionist. Good then that after decades, as you point out, that argument has not won out. I would love to actually debate this issue with someone who does believe birthright citizenship is not a thing.
dgellow 4mo ago
It’s not an ominous “they”, it’s a very well understood patchwork of actors who have been pushing for the end of American democratic, liberal system. The heritage foundation is an important component, but you can add the Thiel fellows, the GOP, evangelical fundamentalists, the right wing media ecosystem, and quite a lot more. They’ve spent multiple decades developing an interconnected infrastructure of think tank, media groups, legal advocacy groups, donor networks, political organizations. They are all working to reshape American institutions away from liberal democratic norms, towards an autocratic conservative governance model. It’s not a new thing or something discussed in underground circles. They have been very vocal and open about their goals, and you can find a lot of investigative work in that whole movement. Their most obvious victory so far has been the complete take over of the Supreme Court, allowing the realization of the idiotic, fascist “Unitary executive theory” concept. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nationalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nationalism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 If that sounds scaremongering you might want to reevaluate your sources of information for at least the past decade

matthewdgreen 4mo ago

Durable control of elections, and maybe one or two more justices.

cosmicgadget 4mo ago

Without saying I believe the statement above, boiling the frog is a legitimate tactic. Think of all the things considered normal now that would have been absurd before 2016.

superultra 4mo ago

Surely we’re aware of the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 yes? It spells out exactly what they are doing, & where they are going. Eliminating birthright citizenship is a key component dating back decades. https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/feudalism-consent-rethinking-birthright-citizenship https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/report/feudalism-c...

andsoitis 4mo ago
Thanks for posting that link. I read part of it and their reasoning strikes me as contortionist. Good then that after decades, as you point out, that argument has not won out. I would love to actually debate this issue with someone who does believe birthright citizenship is not a thing.

dgellow 4mo ago

It’s not an ominous “they”, it’s a very well understood patchwork of actors who have been pushing for the end of American democratic, liberal system. The heritage foundation is an important component, but you can add the Thiel fellows, the GOP, evangelical fundamentalists, the right wing media ecosystem, and quite a lot more. They’ve spent multiple decades developing an interconnected infrastructure of think tank, media groups, legal advocacy groups, donor networks, political organizations. They are all working to reshape American institutions away from liberal democratic norms, towards an autocratic conservative governance model. It’s not a new thing or something discussed in underground circles. They have been very vocal and open about their goals, and you can find a lot of investigative work in that whole movement. Their most obvious victory so far has been the complete take over of the Supreme Court, allowing the realization of the idiotic, fascist “Unitary executive theory” concept. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nationalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_nationalism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 If that sounds scaremongering you might want to reevaluate your sources of information for at least the past decade