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[stub for offtopicness] p.s. come on you guys - this is not what HN is for. You may not owe $megacorp better but you owe this community better if you're partic
by dang 4mo ago
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p.s. come on you guys - this is not what HN is for. You may not owe $megacorp better but you owe this community better if you're participating here.
- 999900000999 4mo agoFeels like the premise for a spy comedy with a protagonist whose mind can’t be read. When the bad guys try they just get the lyrics to Yoko Ono music.
- iLoveOncall 4mo agoThe future is dark.
- TheOtherHobbes 4mo agoA word recondition ration of 78% is still petty poop.
- dang 4mo ago"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- 1970-01-01 4mo agoThe dystopian future will use this to get passwords/passphrases.
- LPisGood 4mo agoWouldn’t a wrench work just as well?
- sublinear 4mo agoIt's much easier to resist torture.
- 1970-01-01 4mo agoNo, the wrench only works as a threat. Once you beat the brains out of someone, you can't try again.
- NiloCK 4mo agoAny minute: wear it permanently to sell training data on LLMs. Take an audited IQ test to negotiate your rate. Better than text-stripping the internet - this thing will soon be pulling the logits as well.
- UltraSane 4mo agoI can actually see this happening someday. Theoretical physicists could charge thousands of dollars an hour.
- throwawalien 4mo agoif you think they're going to pay people for their data you haven't been paying attention they'll just put it buried on page 450 of the meta glasses 3 or something
- UltraSane 4mo agoThey are already paying scarce labor like medical doctors and lawyers hundreds of dollars an hour to create training data. The RoI for training data is high because it can be used to train many models.
- dang 4mo ago"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something." "Don't be snarky." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- NiloCK 4mo agoGreat respect to site guidelines, and to you. Object on both counts. 1. The post was obviously bullish / optimistic on the technical capabilities. Not in the least dismissive. 2. The economics extrapolation is obvious. See current precedent for paid access for purchased screen-casts of dev work: https://pdoom.org/open_calls/04_crowd_cast.html https://pdoom.org/open_calls/04_crowd_cast.html
- moolcool 4mo agoIt'll be a cold day in hell before Meta gets access to my brainwaves. Good heavens, can you imagine?
- kibwen 4mo agoI'm glad that, with any luck, I'll be dead before this kind of thing is commonplace.
- vlian2088 4mo ago2034: brainwave readers are now production-ready 2035: every phone comes with one so you can can do things without clicking any yucky buttons 2036: China mandates phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and promote social harmony. EU and US condemn. the media condemns. 2037: the EU mandates phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and fight malinformation. the media applauds. 2038: the US, ruled by the blue party, mandates phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and combat white nationalism. the red party condemns. 2039: the US, now ruled by the red party, abolishes the previous law and introduces a new one, mandating phone manufacturers to capture and submit brain data to the state to protect the children and combat illegal immigration. the blue party condemns.
- tantalor 4mo agoDo they test against people not in their training cohort?
- fooker 4mo agoComing soon to a Meta office near you: brain-scanning to make sure employees are focused, happy, and productive! There are no layoffs in Ba Sing Se.
- celeries 4mo agoIf this happens, I'll be listening to music with the most annoying lyrics on repeat.
- botfriendsarent 4mo agoI tried it all it said was "Hot or not?" before it crashed
- setnone 4mo agonon-invasive tech from meta? i don't buy that
- egypturnash 4mo ago[flagged]
- Gigachad 4mo agoImagine the shareholder value if he could just beam ads directly in to your brain.
- johnsmith1840 4mo agoLightspeed briefs, for the discriminating crotch!
- dang 4mo agoOk, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.
- fooker 4mo ago@dang How is this offtopic? Meta has shown remarkable disregard to users' and employees' privacy. Why should that not come up when discussing an entirely new dystopian technology that allows them to invade privacy at scale?
- dang 4mo agoThe topic is research into brain-wave decoding. To take some specific piece of research going on in one corner of $BigCorp, and tar it with the brush of general sentiment about $BigCorp, is a classic example of generic tangent: where the topic goes from something specific-and-more-interesting, to something generic-and-more-indignant. We've learned over the years that this is exactly the wrong direction for HN threads to head in. Note this, from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html: "Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents."
- fooker 4mo agoIt's not a 'general sentiment' or tangent though, it's specifically THE technology that has the potential to make privacy nonexistent. Funded by the company that in the recent past, got exposed trying to track employees computer interactions and grabbing screens. Not long before that, it was leaked that employees and contractors were watching videos recorded from meta/rayban smartglasses. I'm a little bit baffled by the defense here. The point of having guidelines is to use your judgement when applying them.
- dang 4mo agoI brought up the "generic tangent" guideline because this was a case of how small/specific topics tend to get sucked into the gravity field of big/generic ones, leading to less interesting discussion (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20generic%20black%20hole&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...). Not only that but less-interesting discussion is usually more-indignant, which makes sense when discussion abandons the actual content of an article (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=mind%20amuse%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). So we end up losing along two axes: loss of information and rise of inflammation.
- androiddrew 4mo ago[flagged]