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I swear I read this article 2 or 3 days ago and the comments on that post were also same as this post. Am I missing something here?

yorwba 4mo ago
You're missing the second-chance pool https://news.ycombinator.com/pool https://news.ycombinator.com/pool which allows certain posts to reappear as if they were new.
- asdff 4mo ago
  Once again expressing my opinion that this is the worst anti feature of the site. Threads are like commenting in the void because most people are not going to be looking for replies to comments they made days or weeks ago. I see the true datestamp of the comment I replied upon upthread was not 3 hours ago, but 3 days ago. The fact that they change the timestamp is also very stupid (yes you can hover and still return the datestamp, but this is by definition a dark pattern). These posts should preserve the timestamp vs masking it and even should be flagged as [Second Chance] in the title imo.
  - deleted 3mo ago
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- khurs 3mo ago
  That doesn't show for me unless I click the link. How does it work?
  - someonebaggy 3mo ago
    dang selects a post to be second-chanced, and this resets the timestamp on it so it appears again.
rebane2001 4mo ago
wait what the heck yeah, this is the same post as from a few days ago, i guess the comment and post timestamps got glitched??
- nancyminusone 4mo ago
  That'a thing HN's second chance pool does. If you mouseover the "3 hours ago" or whatever on a comment, it will tell you the actual post timestamp.
  - mvdtnz 4mo ago
    That is insanely bad borderline hostile UI.
    - dang 4mo ago
      Before we started doing it this way, the threads would fill up with far more off-topic comments ("why is this 3 day old post on the frontpage?" and so on). That was a much bigger problem. Relativizing the timestamps to reflect the re-up time was our attempt to address that. Overall, it has worked ok—that is, while it does still lead to offtopic confusion and complaints in the threads (boo) there is far less of it than there was before (yay). I'm open to suggestions of how to do it better! But you also need to consider the cost of adding explicit details to the UI. If we did that every time something like this came up, HN would have become an unreadable mess a long time ago.
      - argee 3mo ago
        I guarantee you've thought more about this than I have, but the first impression I had of the "second chance" pool was that it would essentially be a repost of the top-level post and not the comment threads. I think part of the reason people bring it up is because they see the same post PLUS the same comments with new timestamps and feel disoriented.
        1bpp 3mo ago

yorwba 4mo ago

You're missing the second-chance pool https://news.ycombinator.com/pool https://news.ycombinator.com/pool which allows certain posts to reappear as if they were new.

asdff 4mo ago
Once again expressing my opinion that this is the worst anti feature of the site. Threads are like commenting in the void because most people are not going to be looking for replies to comments they made days or weeks ago. I see the true datestamp of the comment I replied upon upthread was not 3 hours ago, but 3 days ago. The fact that they change the timestamp is also very stupid (yes you can hover and still return the datestamp, but this is by definition a dark pattern). These posts should preserve the timestamp vs masking it and even should be flagged as [Second Chance] in the title imo.
- deleted 3mo ago
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khurs 3mo ago
That doesn't show for me unless I click the link. How does it work?
- someonebaggy 3mo ago
  dang selects a post to be second-chanced, and this resets the timestamp on it so it appears again.

rebane2001 4mo ago

wait what the heck yeah, this is the same post as from a few days ago, i guess the comment and post timestamps got glitched??

nancyminusone 4mo ago
That'a thing HN's second chance pool does. If you mouseover the "3 hours ago" or whatever on a comment, it will tell you the actual post timestamp.
- mvdtnz 4mo ago
  That is insanely bad borderline hostile UI.
  - dang 4mo ago
    Before we started doing it this way, the threads would fill up with far more off-topic comments ("why is this 3 day old post on the frontpage?" and so on). That was a much bigger problem. Relativizing the timestamps to reflect the re-up time was our attempt to address that. Overall, it has worked ok—that is, while it does still lead to offtopic confusion and complaints in the threads (boo) there is far less of it than there was before (yay). I'm open to suggestions of how to do it better! But you also need to consider the cost of adding explicit details to the UI. If we did that every time something like this came up, HN would have become an unreadable mess a long time ago.
    - argee 3mo ago
      I guarantee you've thought more about this than I have, but the first impression I had of the "second chance" pool was that it would essentially be a repost of the top-level post and not the comment threads. I think part of the reason people bring it up is because they see the same post PLUS the same comments with new timestamps and feel disoriented.
      - 1bpp 3mo ago