There is no single 'upstream'. Furthermore I'd give a shit about intent. That's just their opinion. The garish themes can be ignored, deinstalled, avoided by c

There is no single 'upstream'. Furthermore I'd give a shit about intent. That's just their opinion. The garish themes can be ignored, deinstalled, avoided by choosing an appropriate environment. The fuming about Shelly? Yah, hrrm. Had some of that, too. Solution? yay -Rd shelly You are not forced to use it, and it can be deinstalled. The moment it's not optional anymore, I'm gone. Don't use the community spaces, if you can't handle spoiled brats chasing the latest fads. Bazzite is bloat (conceptually). Fedora no good. RedHat neither. Always felt sluggish to me. Haven't tried since years though, but don't intend to either. Not missing anything from 'there'. There is a TUI-client called concord for the terminal, where you can disable all the gifs, movies, memes, cat pics, avatars, whatever. That's making it much more bearable :-)