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If that works for you pls buy a second hand MacBook m1 or M2 air (air has worse design but some silicon bugs are ironed out around vms etc) and run it for Linux

by alex7o 3mo ago

If that works for you pls buy a second hand MacBook m1 or M2 air (air has worse design but some silicon bugs are ironed out around vms etc) and run it for Linux. It is silent very powerful and you will use for a very long time. Very non repairable tho :(

john01dav 3mo ago
> you will use for a very long time. Very non repairable tho This seems moderately contradictory, because as the time that you use something increases the chance of some physical damage increases, especially for a portable device where dropping, an imperfect bag holding, or someone else bumping it, and the like, are all more likely than a stationary device (like a desktop). This is a huge reason that I don't use many Apple devices, so if they somehow effectively addressed this without reparability, I'd be interested to know. However, I suspect that that's impossible because just making it durable only delays the need to repair, so you end up up shit creek maybe 2 years after buying it instead of 1 year (made up numbers).
- sleepybrett 3mo ago
  the storage will eventually fail and you will be able to do nothing about it (unless you have some pretty good rework chops). I do not recommend apple laptops (with soldered storage) for very long term applications like this for this reason alone.
  - Retr0id 3mo ago
    A slight tangent but BGA rework is pretty easy to learn, and I recommend doing so. I find it an invaluable skill for upgrading/repairing/hacking modern hardware.
    - sleepybrett 3mo ago
      Yeah I need to learn it. I have learned to do some surface mount work but working on a hobby board that might cost me a hundred bucks to replace if i fuck it up vs a modern mac motherboard.. different tier of terror ;)
- tonyedgecombe 3mo ago
  Some of us just don't do that sort of thing. When I took my five year old iPhone 7 in for a battery replacement the person serving me commented on the good condition. This was a phone I used daily without a case.
- throawayonthe 3mo ago
  they're pretty durable relative to most laptops on the market, and replacing components most likely to break like the screen is... neither great nor terrible? https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Two+Thunderbolt+Ports+Late+2020+Display+Assembly+Replacement/143263 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Two+Thunder... how often have you had to repair your current device? non-rhetorical question

by alex7o 3mo ago

john01dav 3mo ago

> you will use for a very long time. Very non repairable tho This seems moderately contradictory, because as the time that you use something increases the chance of some physical damage increases, especially for a portable device where dropping, an imperfect bag holding, or someone else bumping it, and the like, are all more likely than a stationary device (like a desktop). This is a huge reason that I don't use many Apple devices, so if they somehow effectively addressed this without reparability, I'd be interested to know. However, I suspect that that's impossible because just making it durable only delays the need to repair, so you end up up shit creek maybe 2 years after buying it instead of 1 year (made up numbers).

sleepybrett 3mo ago
the storage will eventually fail and you will be able to do nothing about it (unless you have some pretty good rework chops). I do not recommend apple laptops (with soldered storage) for very long term applications like this for this reason alone.
- Retr0id 3mo ago
  A slight tangent but BGA rework is pretty easy to learn, and I recommend doing so. I find it an invaluable skill for upgrading/repairing/hacking modern hardware.
  - sleepybrett 3mo ago
    Yeah I need to learn it. I have learned to do some surface mount work but working on a hobby board that might cost me a hundred bucks to replace if i fuck it up vs a modern mac motherboard.. different tier of terror ;)
tonyedgecombe 3mo ago
Some of us just don't do that sort of thing. When I took my five year old iPhone 7 in for a battery replacement the person serving me commented on the good condition. This was a phone I used daily without a case.
throawayonthe 3mo ago
they're pretty durable relative to most laptops on the market, and replacing components most likely to break like the screen is... neither great nor terrible? https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Two+Thunderbolt+Ports+Late+2020+Display+Assembly+Replacement/143263 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+13-Inch+Two+Thunder... how often have you had to repair your current device? non-rhetorical question