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Son your defrgument is... what? It's okay for them to rugpull as long as they are removing movies from a company which you don't support for... political reason

by antx 3mo ago

Son your defrgument is... what? It's okay for them to rugpull as long as they are removing movies from a company which you don't support for... political reasons? Whew!

hinata08 3mo ago
this company is also a king when it comes to pulling rugs On their TV offering, in 2018 and 2022, they did pull the rug themselves by stopping to broadcast the free to air outlet which has #1 audience on the market, TF1, and this commercial dispute went to courts Long story short, it's big business (not just inde studio does politics) and they're notoriously anything but victims at it
- antx 3mo ago
  Two wrongs don't make a right. Whatever StudioCanal is doing, does not ethically or logically absolve Sony of doing the same to its own customers.
MSFT_Edging 3mo ago
Political reasons =/= actual bad actors. The person you're replying to made a case that a person with outsized influence is creating media to stir resentment for attention and your conclusion is "political reasons". The word "political" always ends up meaning "don't talk about reactionaries throwing rocks"
- antx 3mo ago
  You're moving the goalpost. I get that many people view Vincent Bolloré as a bad guy. But him being a "far-right actor" or whatever that means doesn't excuse Sony's anti-consumer actions in the slightest, that's completely missing the point, and turning things political for no reason. And also a logical falacy.
  - hinata08 3mo ago
    It indeed looks like consumers felling deceived when they thought they purchased something is a possible liability. I'm sure the studio will watch the fallouts with amusement, waiting for them to come back However, dealing with that kind of free market big business loving buster is still a huge business risk that requires management and negotiations. I can get it if Sony limits their business risks at some point, even if the severance initially costs them. it would be so fun to be an insider to these negotiations
  - MSFT_Edging 3mo ago
    I wasn't defending the sony action, more defending the take you replied to.

by antx 3mo ago

Son your defrgument is... what? It's okay for them to rugpull as long as they are removing movies from a company which you don't support for... political reasons? Whew!

hinata08 3mo ago

this company is also a king when it comes to pulling rugs On their TV offering, in 2018 and 2022, they did pull the rug themselves by stopping to broadcast the free to air outlet which has #1 audience on the market, TF1, and this commercial dispute went to courts Long story short, it's big business (not just inde studio does politics) and they're notoriously anything but victims at it

antx 3mo ago
Two wrongs don't make a right. Whatever StudioCanal is doing, does not ethically or logically absolve Sony of doing the same to its own customers.

MSFT_Edging 3mo ago

Political reasons =/= actual bad actors. The person you're replying to made a case that a person with outsized influence is creating media to stir resentment for attention and your conclusion is "political reasons". The word "political" always ends up meaning "don't talk about reactionaries throwing rocks"

antx 3mo ago
You're moving the goalpost. I get that many people view Vincent Bolloré as a bad guy. But him being a "far-right actor" or whatever that means doesn't excuse Sony's anti-consumer actions in the slightest, that's completely missing the point, and turning things political for no reason. And also a logical falacy.
- hinata08 3mo ago
  It indeed looks like consumers felling deceived when they thought they purchased something is a possible liability. I'm sure the studio will watch the fallouts with amusement, waiting for them to come back However, dealing with that kind of free market big business loving buster is still a huge business risk that requires management and negotiations. I can get it if Sony limits their business risks at some point, even if the severance initially costs them. it would be so fun to be an insider to these negotiations
- MSFT_Edging 3mo ago
  I wasn't defending the sony action, more defending the take you replied to.