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My controversial idea: midnight should be where current 4AM is because 04:00 is the lowest point of human circadian rhythm. Currently we have nonsense like "1AM

My controversial idea: midnight should be where current 4AM is because 04:00 is the lowest point of human circadian rhythm. Currently we have nonsense like "1AM is technically a part of the next day but for all practical purposes it's still the previous day". Also, 24h clock should be the standard so that we can avoid discussions "is 12AM noon or midnight".

ButlerianJihad 4mo ago
I live in a hot desert climate where most of the daytime during summer is inhospitable to human activities. We also do not observe DST at all, and that makes us a red-headed stepchild in America. I have longed for a system here where summertime means a 12-hour DST: everyone sleeps all day and then goes to work/school in the coolness and darkness of nighttime. I absolutely love chilling outside in the dark when the lows are in the 70s, 80s. https://m.xkcd.com/2594/ https://m.xkcd.com/2594/ Time zones were invented because of railroads, and all of the time/date related troubles we have today is because modern urban technology is 100% fake artifice that denies the contours of the natural world, not to mention globalism that denies contours of local culture and seeks to cram everyone and everything into rigidly defined boxes.
- NoGravitas 4mo ago
  > I live in a hot desert climate where most of the daytime during summer is inhospitable to human activities. I live in a hot/humid subtropical where most of the daytime in summer is likewise inhospitable to human activities. I too long to be nocturnal in summer, though here it doesn't cool down as much at night.
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- frollogaston 4mo ago
  I don't understand how Arizona lives during the day for like 5 months. It's too darn hot there, and because it's dry, nighttime is way cooler.
  - ButlerianJihad 4mo ago
    It is instructive to learn that the colonization of the Phoenix area and other desert urban centers coincided with the establishment of railroads, the shipments of ice and chilled products on those railroads, and of course huge waves came with the popularity of the chiller and air conditioning systems. Of course, the indigeneous tribes and early explorers/homesteaders made a living here without those machines. I've heard tell of various methods for coping with the blistering heat, and if my A/C ever breaks in here, may try 'em out, but that's "surviving" rather than living, IMHO.
rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4mo ago
In Japan, if you get on a 1 hour train just before midnight, the printed ticket will say something like "23:05" for the embarkment time, and "24:05" for the disarmament. Same date for both - the clocks can just go beyond 24 hours. Spend enough time out late in Japan, and you'll see hour 24, 25, even 26.

ButlerianJihad 4mo ago

I live in a hot desert climate where most of the daytime during summer is inhospitable to human activities. We also do not observe DST at all, and that makes us a red-headed stepchild in America. I have longed for a system here where summertime means a 12-hour DST: everyone sleeps all day and then goes to work/school in the coolness and darkness of nighttime. I absolutely love chilling outside in the dark when the lows are in the 70s, 80s. https://m.xkcd.com/2594/ https://m.xkcd.com/2594/ Time zones were invented because of railroads, and all of the time/date related troubles we have today is because modern urban technology is 100% fake artifice that denies the contours of the natural world, not to mention globalism that denies contours of local culture and seeks to cram everyone and everything into rigidly defined boxes.

NoGravitas 4mo ago
> I live in a hot desert climate where most of the daytime during summer is inhospitable to human activities. I live in a hot/humid subtropical where most of the daytime in summer is likewise inhospitable to human activities. I too long to be nocturnal in summer, though here it doesn't cool down as much at night.
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frollogaston 4mo ago
I don't understand how Arizona lives during the day for like 5 months. It's too darn hot there, and because it's dry, nighttime is way cooler.
- ButlerianJihad 4mo ago
  It is instructive to learn that the colonization of the Phoenix area and other desert urban centers coincided with the establishment of railroads, the shipments of ice and chilled products on those railroads, and of course huge waves came with the popularity of the chiller and air conditioning systems. Of course, the indigeneous tribes and early explorers/homesteaders made a living here without those machines. I've heard tell of various methods for coping with the blistering heat, and if my A/C ever breaks in here, may try 'em out, but that's "surviving" rather than living, IMHO.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4mo ago

In Japan, if you get on a 1 hour train just before midnight, the printed ticket will say something like "23:05" for the embarkment time, and "24:05" for the disarmament. Same date for both - the clocks can just go beyond 24 hours. Spend enough time out late in Japan, and you'll see hour 24, 25, even 26.