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The bit about internal rumblings at Apple I definitely read from him but the rest is just things we saw play out publicly over the past decade.

• saagarjha 4mo ago
  I have no real love for Alan Dye but you should probably understand that Gruber feels it is a personal affront that someone might work for a company that is not Apple.
  • hbn 4mo ago
    Are you suggesting Gruber is upset at Dye for leaving Apple? We all disliked Dye before he left. People were taking potshots at Apple's design direction under him for 10 years.
    • saagarjha 4mo ago
      He thinks Dye was never good enough to be at Apple and that he would think of leaving proves it
      • hbn 4mo ago
        Is there something you perceive as unfair about judging a guy on the output of the work he was responsible for over a long period of time?
        • saagarjha 4mo ago
          You will note that this is not what is being judged as I described in my comment that you just replied to