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Were they paying for the Dreamweaver licenses?

nekusar 3mo ago
Please. Universities have students by the short and curlies. They can academically do basically whatever they want, and fail you for not complying. Professors can even demand their book be purchased, and fail for not buying the book. Most universities are unethical shitholes that can do basically whatever they want to gatekeep a diploma.
- dcow 3mo ago
  It’s getting so bad. My wife is in a remote school where they fail students occasionally to squeeze a little extra $$ out of them.
  - what 3mo ago
    I’m sorry your wife failed some classes, but it’s probably not because the school wants some extra money.
    - picofarad 3mo ago
      They didn't say that.
      - mort96 3mo ago
        They did seem to think that it's a problem for schools to fail students.
        necovek 3mo ago
        They didn't say that either. What they did say is that the school sometimes fails students to get more money — supposedly implying that this was not because they did not meet the passing criteria. This does not preclude failing students when they deserve it. It is ok to question of what makes them believe they would have passed the exams without this financial motivation for the school, but they were pretty clear IMO.
        nekusar 3mo ago
        Lets use names. Western Governors University. Online 4 year degree. Classes are passed when you pass the "high stakes" (read: proctorio test). This means if you know the material, then you can pass a class in 1 day. HOWEVER, when you do your final test, they only tell you pass or fail. They do NOT show you what questions you got right or wrong. If you fail, you have to wait 5 days and go through professor hoops. Of course, you naturally never actually talked to the prof. Its all online through ZyBooks. But WGU benefits on failing people, and by hiding what you failed at. Because the longer you attend, the more they charge. Their response is basically "Get Gud Scrub but we're not gonna tell you how".
        dcow 3mo ago
        It’s not a problem to fail students. But when the online wing of the school has a 35% graduation rate, doesn’t hold lectures, and has a swarm of disgruntled reviews from people who feel like the school is in the business of taking Pell grants and maxing their student loans then stonewalling them when they hit mid 3rd year (right after you’re in for a pound) and start asking questions about where all the money went and why they were sitting at a B all semester then magically ended up with a 59 after the final, it’s a little sus.
    - high_na_euv 3mo ago
      How are you so sure? There is so much shady things about academic env that it doesnt sound scary Ive witnessed situation where "hard" prof was teaching and many ppl failed, and then thry received "easy" prof and they passed But they had to pay for exams and retake, etc
anon7000 3mo ago
When I had web design a bit after 2010, they still used Dreamweaver and yeah you could get a license for free via the university. That’s pretty normal (eg giving you a Visual Studio license, Office, all that). It was more crazy that the course was so incredibly basic (nothing more than static page building in dreamweaver) at this college compared to the other one I later transferred to

Please. Universities have students by the short and curlies. They can academically do basically whatever they want, and fail you for not complying. Professors can even demand their book be purchased, and fail for not buying the book. Most universities are unethical shitholes that can do basically whatever they want to gatekeep a diploma.

dcow 3mo ago
It’s getting so bad. My wife is in a remote school where they fail students occasionally to squeeze a little extra $$ out of them.
- what 3mo ago
  I’m sorry your wife failed some classes, but it’s probably not because the school wants some extra money.
  - picofarad 3mo ago
    They didn't say that.
    - mort96 3mo ago
      They did seem to think that it's a problem for schools to fail students.
      - necovek 3mo ago
        They didn't say that either. What they did say is that the school sometimes fails students to get more money — supposedly implying that this was not because they did not meet the passing criteria. This does not preclude failing students when they deserve it. It is ok to question of what makes them believe they would have passed the exams without this financial motivation for the school, but they were pretty clear IMO.
        nekusar 3mo ago
        Lets use names. Western Governors University. Online 4 year degree. Classes are passed when you pass the "high stakes" (read: proctorio test). This means if you know the material, then you can pass a class in 1 day. HOWEVER, when you do your final test, they only tell you pass or fail. They do NOT show you what questions you got right or wrong. If you fail, you have to wait 5 days and go through professor hoops. Of course, you naturally never actually talked to the prof. Its all online through ZyBooks. But WGU benefits on failing people, and by hiding what you failed at. Because the longer you attend, the more they charge. Their response is basically "Get Gud Scrub but we're not gonna tell you how".
      - dcow 3mo ago
        It’s not a problem to fail students. But when the online wing of the school has a 35% graduation rate, doesn’t hold lectures, and has a swarm of disgruntled reviews from people who feel like the school is in the business of taking Pell grants and maxing their student loans then stonewalling them when they hit mid 3rd year (right after you’re in for a pound) and start asking questions about where all the money went and why they were sitting at a B all semester then magically ended up with a 59 after the final, it’s a little sus.
  - high_na_euv 3mo ago
    How are you so sure? There is so much shady things about academic env that it doesnt sound scary Ive witnessed situation where "hard" prof was teaching and many ppl failed, and then thry received "easy" prof and they passed But they had to pay for exams and retake, etc

anon7000 3mo ago

When I had web design a bit after 2010, they still used Dreamweaver and yeah you could get a license for free via the university. That’s pretty normal (eg giving you a Visual Studio license, Office, all that). It was more crazy that the course was so incredibly basic (nothing more than static page building in dreamweaver) at this college compared to the other one I later transferred to