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> A significant part of the cultural value of the internet comes from free anonymous expression. That's a value judgment. I'm sure it's true for some on this w

> A significant part of the cultural value of the internet comes from free anonymous expression. That's a value judgment. I'm sure it's true for some on this website, and certainly most on 4chan, but I would caution against broadening that into the general public. For my mom, the value of the internet is sharing dog pictures and clubhouse opening hours with people she known in real life. For my dad it's browsing web shops that have physical presence. None of those things offer any sort of anonymous expression. I would also argue that presenting 4chan as more interesting than it is troubling or disgusting is pretty telling. The internet would not be culturally poorer for 4chan shutting down.

ball_of_lint 3mo ago
Every argument in this thread comes from a value judgement? If you don't have personal privacy as a value then the answer is obvious - this is going to save kids from porn for no harm, let's usher it in. Only if you do value privacy (value judgement), can I start to convince you that this legislation has a strong, negative outcome in that area, and that it isn't effective at 'saving kids'. --- Online commerce and dog pictures to personal friends are not of significant _cultural_ value. Which is what I was focusing on there. If you want to measure it by economic value that's a whole different ballgame. I also find 4chan mostly disgusting. But that's the key point and what this cuts to: Is anonymous expression something that should exist?