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> Being able to nail a zero-shot greenfield project is relatively easy even for a small model Not really germane to your comment but I hope I don’t sound old w

> Being able to nail a zero-shot greenfield project is relatively easy even for a small model Not really germane to your comment but I hope I don’t sound old when I say I remember a time when spinning up a PoC was a week of work, and a statement like yours was pure science fiction.

cyanydeez 4mo ago
I love the ability to spin up any repo on github by pointing a local model at it with zero cost beyond the heat & electricity.
onion2k 4mo ago
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ai_fry_ur_brain 4mo ago
Yeah, and we still do take a week for people that actually care. If I start prompting away the core of a new project I lose interest in the entire thing almost straight away. I hate it. The next day I could care less about it. In fact it just makes me lazy, like a fat person who drives everywhere. I love typing code and thinking for myself. Im going to continue to do that. I still dont know anyone who's shipped anything truly useful with this garbage tech, let alone with a local 30b param model. So much cope in these comments. Spending 6k on hardware to run the worlds most mediocre model truly does make you an incredibly stupid person, so Im not really suprised by these comments of people saying these tiny models are helping them so much. Its like a special needs kid all of sudden got the ability to code, of course they'd be impressed by basically all the code it produces.
- j_bum 4mo ago
  I mean, have you looked for examples of things that people using local models to build and ship? Or are you just assuming it doesn’t happen? I’ve used Qwen 3.6 27B for many things at work, and I’m regularly able use it for reasonably scoped tasks. I’m not saying these models are perfect. But you are complaining about people on the extreme, while at the same shouting from the opposite extreme.
hollowturtle 4mo ago
In what era spinning up a PoC required a week of work? Especially on the web. I've been a developer for roughly 20 years and that has never been the case, to the point that I believe people impressed by LLMs are the same who had a very low productivity. Today we have game jams as short as 3 days and talented people are able to produce very good PoC, with some almost complete!
- spiralcoaster 4mo ago
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  - hollowturtle 4mo ago
    These people work mostly in CRUD apps and they're telling you they how feel productive. Btw exploratory ideas even for hard problems come out already after a hackaon of a day or a game jam of 3 days
    - janalsncm 4mo ago
      Do you also believe Terrance Tao was a mediocre mathematician before AI?
      - hollowturtle 4mo ago
        What the hell has to do with spinning up PoC and web productivity?
  - dang 4mo ago
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cyanydeez 4mo ago

I love the ability to spin up any repo on github by pointing a local model at it with zero cost beyond the heat & electricity.

onion2k 4mo ago

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ai_fry_ur_brain 4mo ago

Yeah, and we still do take a week for people that actually care. If I start prompting away the core of a new project I lose interest in the entire thing almost straight away. I hate it. The next day I could care less about it. In fact it just makes me lazy, like a fat person who drives everywhere. I love typing code and thinking for myself. Im going to continue to do that. I still dont know anyone who's shipped anything truly useful with this garbage tech, let alone with a local 30b param model. So much cope in these comments. Spending 6k on hardware to run the worlds most mediocre model truly does make you an incredibly stupid person, so Im not really suprised by these comments of people saying these tiny models are helping them so much. Its like a special needs kid all of sudden got the ability to code, of course they'd be impressed by basically all the code it produces.

j_bum 4mo ago
I mean, have you looked for examples of things that people using local models to build and ship? Or are you just assuming it doesn’t happen? I’ve used Qwen 3.6 27B for many things at work, and I’m regularly able use it for reasonably scoped tasks. I’m not saying these models are perfect. But you are complaining about people on the extreme, while at the same shouting from the opposite extreme.

hollowturtle 4mo ago

In what era spinning up a PoC required a week of work? Especially on the web. I've been a developer for roughly 20 years and that has never been the case, to the point that I believe people impressed by LLMs are the same who had a very low productivity. Today we have game jams as short as 3 days and talented people are able to produce very good PoC, with some almost complete!

spiralcoaster 4mo ago
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- hollowturtle 4mo ago
  These people work mostly in CRUD apps and they're telling you they how feel productive. Btw exploratory ideas even for hard problems come out already after a hackaon of a day or a game jam of 3 days
  - janalsncm 4mo ago
    Do you also believe Terrance Tao was a mediocre mathematician before AI?
    - hollowturtle 4mo ago
      What the hell has to do with spinning up PoC and web productivity?
- dang 4mo ago
  We've banned this account for attacking other users and ignoring our request to stop, as well as frequently breaking the site guidelines in other ways. Not cool, and not allowed here. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
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