Although I agree with your comments on the relevant design projects, I'd like to point out how meaningless engineering degrees can also be (note - I didn't say

Although I agree with your comments on the relevant design projects, I'd like to point out how meaningless engineering degrees can also be (note - I didn't say tend to be). When I was in college my engineering department did a joint class / project with the industrial design majors. I was blown away by how incompetent most of my classmates were compared with many of the industrial design students who seemed to have a much better grasp on how products ended up in the real world. No degree is ever a guarantee that the holder is not a moron.