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> In what scenario would pulling in a friend's profile photo create a useful ad? Exactly in the scenario you just described. You still remember it and you are

by dewey 4mo ago

> In what scenario would pulling in a friend's profile photo create a useful ad? Exactly in the scenario you just described. You still remember it and you are actively talking about it years after the fact.

fumblebee 4mo ago
wouldn't "useful ad" imply either 1) clicking through and buying the product or service, or else 2) building up a positive brand association to help increase sales later? remembering an advert correlates but is different to it being valuable.
- svachalek 4mo ago
  Yeah I remember some studies showed this with overly sexy ads. They were very memorable to the audience but all they remembered was hot chicks, they couldn't recall the product.
RattlesnakeJake 4mo ago
But it didn't bring clicks to the website nor goodwill toward the company. No one remembers who ran the ad. Even if we did, it would only be in a negative light due to a weird and off-putting advertising approach.
- dewey 4mo ago
  Don't get hung up on this specific example of the dating ad. There's a difference between awareness campaigns and click / conversion campaigns and if there's some ads for a garden chair and your friend is sitting on it you'll definitely remember it more than some random model. Or clothes that are advertised on your body. Not saying that's the future we want, but it would definitely work for a while.
  - RattlesnakeJake 4mo ago
    That doesn't come across as any less creepy to the average user: "They stole my friend's likeness to sell me a lawn chair" still feels slimy. I'm sure the real reason is that Facebook added a poorly thought out feature to their marketing tools around that time, and someone just decided to try it out.
    - godwinson__4-8 4mo ago
      All this talk about how creepy Facebook is and yet most people use it? If Facebook was that creepy it wouldn't be a trillion dollar company. So they saw a "creepy" ad. They went "haha" or whatever and then kept using it. I mean how would you even quantify that the feature was "poorly thought out" or "slimy" at that point? If that was the case why didn't the user log off and never come back? Then at least Facebook would have a signal to work with. Sometimes people really miss the forest for the trees. Most people actually like Facebook. If you can't wrap your head around that you have to accept you are distinct from the typical consumer. A trillion dollars is not made by appealing to the margins. If Facebook really sucked so bad everyone would log off. Instead of another boring Facebook sucks comment why don't you ask your sibling why they didn't stop interacting with the website after that? You would probably learn more about the world doing that than trying to speculate about marketing tool features at a company you don't work for.
not_a_bot_4sho 4mo ago
Sounds like the viewers were highly unlikely to have clicked through. Cost the advertiser a view but lost the conversion. Useful ad for Facebook. They made money on it. The advertiser didn't.
- theNotFractured 4mo ago
  If the viewers don't click on facebook, advertisers would stop advertising on facebook.
  - chrz 4mo ago
    but lot of clicks doesnt happen because of the content
boelboel 4mo ago
Many people want to date their own friends? Seeing your friend is on the site would show it's okay to use?
dwa3592 4mo ago
This is a ridiculous argument that just because someone still remembers something means it was a good advertising strategy. This is partly why advertising sucks. The correct metric in this case would be did the user actually go on the date with the said person or at least initiated the conversation. In this person's case, very likely not. So the strategy is dumb, ridiculous and laughable but not useful or good in any sense.
- godwinson__4-8 4mo ago
  You seem ignorant of how money is made in these situations. The money is already made way before anyone ever goes on an actual date. Therefore the people showing you the ads are still incentivized to show the ad. If you thought about things more clearly you would also realize that a platform that tried to measure something more like "how did the date actually go" would be even more dystopian. You want an algorithm to start pricing in the cost of you falling in love? If a date goes amazing should the software send you an additional invoice? People who use these apps are already essentially outsourcing interpersonal relationships. How far do you want to take that? The lack of precision is not "dumb, ridiculous and laughable" it's actually a saving grace.
hbn 4mo ago
Zero people in the process of creating that ad said "we'll suggest people date their siblings, it'll be so memorable" That is absolutely not a success story when trying to market a Christian dating platform.
- dewey 4mo ago
  It's about the "in which scenario" question of the OP, not this dating ad in particular.
RIMR 4mo ago
They're married now, too.

by dewey 4mo ago

fumblebee 4mo ago

wouldn't "useful ad" imply either 1) clicking through and buying the product or service, or else 2) building up a positive brand association to help increase sales later? remembering an advert correlates but is different to it being valuable.

svachalek 4mo ago
Yeah I remember some studies showed this with overly sexy ads. They were very memorable to the audience but all they remembered was hot chicks, they couldn't recall the product.

RattlesnakeJake 4mo ago

But it didn't bring clicks to the website nor goodwill toward the company. No one remembers who ran the ad. Even if we did, it would only be in a negative light due to a weird and off-putting advertising approach.

dewey 4mo ago
Don't get hung up on this specific example of the dating ad. There's a difference between awareness campaigns and click / conversion campaigns and if there's some ads for a garden chair and your friend is sitting on it you'll definitely remember it more than some random model. Or clothes that are advertised on your body. Not saying that's the future we want, but it would definitely work for a while.
- RattlesnakeJake 4mo ago
  That doesn't come across as any less creepy to the average user: "They stole my friend's likeness to sell me a lawn chair" still feels slimy. I'm sure the real reason is that Facebook added a poorly thought out feature to their marketing tools around that time, and someone just decided to try it out.
  - godwinson__4-8 4mo ago
    All this talk about how creepy Facebook is and yet most people use it? If Facebook was that creepy it wouldn't be a trillion dollar company. So they saw a "creepy" ad. They went "haha" or whatever and then kept using it. I mean how would you even quantify that the feature was "poorly thought out" or "slimy" at that point? If that was the case why didn't the user log off and never come back? Then at least Facebook would have a signal to work with. Sometimes people really miss the forest for the trees. Most people actually like Facebook. If you can't wrap your head around that you have to accept you are distinct from the typical consumer. A trillion dollars is not made by appealing to the margins. If Facebook really sucked so bad everyone would log off. Instead of another boring Facebook sucks comment why don't you ask your sibling why they didn't stop interacting with the website after that? You would probably learn more about the world doing that than trying to speculate about marketing tool features at a company you don't work for.

not_a_bot_4sho 4mo ago

Sounds like the viewers were highly unlikely to have clicked through. Cost the advertiser a view but lost the conversion. Useful ad for Facebook. They made money on it. The advertiser didn't.

theNotFractured 4mo ago
If the viewers don't click on facebook, advertisers would stop advertising on facebook.
- chrz 4mo ago
  but lot of clicks doesnt happen because of the content

boelboel 4mo ago

Many people want to date their own friends? Seeing your friend is on the site would show it's okay to use?

dwa3592 4mo ago

This is a ridiculous argument that just because someone still remembers something means it was a good advertising strategy. This is partly why advertising sucks. The correct metric in this case would be did the user actually go on the date with the said person or at least initiated the conversation. In this person's case, very likely not. So the strategy is dumb, ridiculous and laughable but not useful or good in any sense.

godwinson__4-8 4mo ago
You seem ignorant of how money is made in these situations. The money is already made way before anyone ever goes on an actual date. Therefore the people showing you the ads are still incentivized to show the ad. If you thought about things more clearly you would also realize that a platform that tried to measure something more like "how did the date actually go" would be even more dystopian. You want an algorithm to start pricing in the cost of you falling in love? If a date goes amazing should the software send you an additional invoice? People who use these apps are already essentially outsourcing interpersonal relationships. How far do you want to take that? The lack of precision is not "dumb, ridiculous and laughable" it's actually a saving grace.

hbn 4mo ago

Zero people in the process of creating that ad said "we'll suggest people date their siblings, it'll be so memorable" That is absolutely not a success story when trying to market a Christian dating platform.

dewey 4mo ago
It's about the "in which scenario" question of the OP, not this dating ad in particular.

RIMR 4mo ago

They're married now, too.