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Well yes, you have to spend the money wisely. How could we construct a system so that we have 2x as many teachers (thereby halving the classroom size)? That wo
by saulpw 4mo ago
Well yes, you have to spend the money wisely. How could we construct a system so that we have 2x as many teachers (thereby halving the classroom size)? That would have a lot of good second-order effects beyond test scores.
- rayiner 4mo agoSo why has per-capita student spending doubled since 1990 (adjusted for inflation) without any increase in test scores? Why haven’t we been spending the money wisely? Student to teacher ratios have continuously decreased and are about half of what they were in 1960. Data on the results is mixed: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/class-size-what-research-says-and-what-it-means-for-state-policy/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/class-size-what-research-...
- rixed 4mo agoBecause we have also increased the spending in "un-education" (entertainment, social media, college sport...) ? What's your own theory ?
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- bugflux 4mo agoHonestly curious, but don’t tests also adjust for “inflation”? Aren’t tests today be harder than they were in 1990?
- lostmsu 4mo agoSee https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/mathematics-performance-pisa.html https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/mathematics-performa...
- dntrkv 4mo agoThe funding system is broken, not the actual act of funding. We aren't incentivizing meaningful work, we are incentivizing diplomas.
- gilbetron 4mo ago1. Test scores have increased 2. Simpson's Paradox - we are educating a far great % of young people then we used to be, so we're pulling in disadvantaged kids that would've been left out of the education system, or simply left out of testing. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/when-average-isnt-good-enough-simpsons-paradox-in-education-and-earnings/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/when-average-isnt-good-en... A parallel is when I looked into home births versus hospital births when my wife was pregnant. The statistics of home births crushes hospital births in terms of outcomes. But that's because only healthy women who don't have complications are in the home birth category. Hospitals must admit anyone that shows up in labor, and must handle any negative situations. Schools now handle so many more kids than they used to, and try to meet the challenge. They are failing because the challenge is too great given the funding, not to mention the corruption of the bureaucracy that inflates administrations.
- rayiner 4mo agoBut even the chart disaggregating scores by race shows that within each group test scores barely went up since 1990. Meanwhile, inflation adjusted per student spending has increased 30% since then.