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This is an insane level of cope. The whole tokenmaxxing thing started because Jensen Huang said insane things like having a single engineer spend 250k in token

This is an insane level of cope. The whole tokenmaxxing thing started because Jensen Huang said insane things like having a single engineer spend 250k in tokens or he’d fire him; and that OpenClaw was basically AGI. > No one is stupid enough to always measure performance based on token spend and have unlimited budget. Yes the people forcing these mandates absolutely are this stupid because that’s what people like Jensen Huang, Peter Steinberger and Boris Cherney were touting. Seriously have you ever actually talked to an average C-Level about AI? They are absolutely cooked. You’re the one that’s overthinking it.

jmye 4mo ago
How many “average C-levels” have you talked to? What, specifically, do you think that actually means? Do you think the average CMO and CTO are identical, and have identical profiles in this case? Or are you just blathering about things you’ve never experienced because you met the “CEO” of a five person company once? I find grand proclamations by people who speak in TikTok absolutely laughable memeing.
- otabdeveloper4 4mo ago
  You don't need to meet these C-levels personally. They spread their insane hot AI takes everywhere and go out of their way to market this crap at conferences, etc.
  - TeMPOraL 4mo ago
    Did you read those hot takes personally, or only had them reported on by your favorite YouTube/TikTok pundits? Hint: YouTubers and Tiktokers are in business, and that business is entertainment, and they're about as truthful as a fortune teller. (Difference being, one of these groups is just lying about objective reality that's trivial to independently verify, the other one are just unlicensed therapists with thousand years old rituals).
IanCal 4mo ago
> like having a single engineer spend 250k in tokens or he’d fire him; That’s not quite what was said there, he’s budgeting half a devs salary as token spend in a podcast and that if he had a 500k engineer who spent 5k on it at the end of the year he’d go ape shit. Now you can say that’s wild, and sure, but this is not a standard c suite exec talking it’s the ceo of Nvidia. Even ignoring other hiring costs this is essentially an argument that Nvidia top engineers should get more than a 50% performance improvement with extremely heavy AI usage. To me, that doesn’t seem like such an enormous statement. For the head of a multi trillion dollar company entirely driven by AI sales arguing it gives a useful benefit to engineers isn’t that odd and betting on a 50% improvement within Nvidia seems kinda normal. > Seriously have you ever actually talked to an average C-Level about AI? Yes. Single digit percentage improvements over time would normally excite them, the idea of cappable cost performance improvements that last which your devs actually want to experiment with and a cultural and customer expectation that you’re doing this is pretty enticing. Particularly during a time when tokens were heavily subsidised - isn’t that the perfect time to do it? Now that has ended there’s a huge focus on roi.

jmye 4mo ago

How many “average C-levels” have you talked to? What, specifically, do you think that actually means? Do you think the average CMO and CTO are identical, and have identical profiles in this case? Or are you just blathering about things you’ve never experienced because you met the “CEO” of a five person company once? I find grand proclamations by people who speak in TikTok absolutely laughable memeing.

otabdeveloper4 4mo ago
You don't need to meet these C-levels personally. They spread their insane hot AI takes everywhere and go out of their way to market this crap at conferences, etc.
- TeMPOraL 4mo ago
  Did you read those hot takes personally, or only had them reported on by your favorite YouTube/TikTok pundits? Hint: YouTubers and Tiktokers are in business, and that business is entertainment, and they're about as truthful as a fortune teller. (Difference being, one of these groups is just lying about objective reality that's trivial to independently verify, the other one are just unlicensed therapists with thousand years old rituals).

IanCal 4mo ago

> like having a single engineer spend 250k in tokens or he’d fire him; That’s not quite what was said there, he’s budgeting half a devs salary as token spend in a podcast and that if he had a 500k engineer who spent 5k on it at the end of the year he’d go ape shit. Now you can say that’s wild, and sure, but this is not a standard c suite exec talking it’s the ceo of Nvidia. Even ignoring other hiring costs this is essentially an argument that Nvidia top engineers should get more than a 50% performance improvement with extremely heavy AI usage. To me, that doesn’t seem like such an enormous statement. For the head of a multi trillion dollar company entirely driven by AI sales arguing it gives a useful benefit to engineers isn’t that odd and betting on a 50% improvement within Nvidia seems kinda normal. > Seriously have you ever actually talked to an average C-Level about AI? Yes. Single digit percentage improvements over time would normally excite them, the idea of cappable cost performance improvements that last which your devs actually want to experiment with and a cultural and customer expectation that you’re doing this is pretty enticing. Particularly during a time when tokens were heavily subsidised - isn’t that the perfect time to do it? Now that has ended there’s a huge focus on roi.