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On Gleam's homepage: "Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t." Important information to know about a programming language /s.

tasuki 3mo ago
I think so, too. I've had woke people attempt to do me harm in the past, but the Gleam people didn't strike me as that kind of woke: they've been nothing but helpful. If you think black lives don't matter, or that trans people deserve no rights, or support nazis... the Gleam community probably wouldn't want to have you. I -- controversially -- think black lives matter and white lives matter. And everyone else too!
- throwawaypath 3mo ago
  >I think so, too. I was being sarcastic. >I've had woke people attempt to do me harm in the past Did you inform the authorities? >If you think black lives don't matter, or that trans people deserve no rights, or support nazis... the Gleam community probably wouldn't want to have you. Let's say there's a language that has the following on their homepage: "It's OK to be White, no child groomers. No commie bullshit." If you think it's not OK to be White, or that people should be allowed to sexually groom children, or support commies... Black and White lives matter, but that's not what Glean is signalling.
  - lpil 3mo ago
    > Black and White lives matter, but that's not what Glean is signalling. It is! citation: I wrote it.
    - throwawaypath 3mo ago
      No it's not. You would never put "White and Black Lives Matter" there nor "all people's lives matter".
      - lpil 3mo ago
        Because that means something else.
        throwawaypath 3mo ago
        WHOOSH That's the point! "Black Lives Matter" means something different.
        lpil 3mo ago
        No no, you misunderstand. It doesn't mean the same thing as you imply with your previous comment. Writing is contextual, if one only looks at the literal then one misses the other half of the meaning. Unfortunately your proposed change has added context that undermine your honourable and well-intentioned message.
        throwawaypath 3mo ago
        >Unfortunately [...] has added context that undermine your honourable and well-intentioned message. As does your original text. Congrats, you made my point for me.
        lpil 3mo ago
        Sorry, I don’t know what you mean.
  - polymer8563 3mo ago
    What are you even talking about?? I made an account just to reply to this. Thousands of comments filled with poorly-written ramblings on this site and yours was the biggest I have ever seen. There are so many layers of bullshit in your comment I can't even fathom what to write, I hope you improve as a human being and learn to use that wet thing inside your skull.
    - albedoa 3mo ago
      His account is a realtime view of a freak having a mental breakdown, and the mods are like "this is fine" lol.
      - throwawaypath 3mo ago
        Very cool and worthwhile way to spend your one fleeting existence dude: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446644 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446644 Your account is a realtime view of a freak having a mental breakdown (stalking me in the comments), and the mods are like "this is fine" lol.
      - polymer8563 3mo ago
        Crazy thing this thing wasnt moderated
        throwawaypath 3mo ago
        wasn't*
        polymer8563 3mo ago
        ragebait complete returning to hq
        throwawaypath 3mo ago
        You admission of defeat is accepted.
  - tasuki 3mo ago
    > >I think so, too. > I was being sarcastic. Yes I'm fully aware - I was just playing along.
mindslight 3mo ago
The statement is obviously not about the language, but rather about the community. Drawing some basic lines to keep edgelord disruptors at bay (or at least quiet with their reactionary bullshit), so that the focus can remain on the language. Maybe it's a little overstated, but at this point, any of my worries about "woke" have been overshadowed by open fascism ("autocratic authoritarianism" for those who get triggered by the f-word).
- throwawaypath 3mo ago
  >Maybe it's a little overstated, but at this point, any of my worries about "woke" have been overshadowed by open fascism ("autocratic authoritarianism" for those who get triggered by the f-word). Not in the slightest. "Woke" worries have repeatedly been shown to be true in the courts. "Open fascism" has repeatedly been shown to be Trump Derangement Syndrome.
malmz 3mo ago
Extremely important information to know. It means the community around the language cares about creating a safe environment for me and many of my friends.
- throwawaypath 3mo ago
  >Extremely important information to know. No it's not. It conveys nothing about the language. >It means the community around the language cares about creating a safe environment for me and many of my friends. They don't specifically ban child groomers like they do "Nazis", which using your logic means the language doesn't care about creating a safe environment for children and child sex abuse victims.

tasuki 3mo ago

I think so, too. I've had woke people attempt to do me harm in the past, but the Gleam people didn't strike me as that kind of woke: they've been nothing but helpful. If you think black lives don't matter, or that trans people deserve no rights, or support nazis... the Gleam community probably wouldn't want to have you. I -- controversially -- think black lives matter and white lives matter. And everyone else too!

throwawaypath 3mo ago
>I think so, too. I was being sarcastic. >I've had woke people attempt to do me harm in the past Did you inform the authorities? >If you think black lives don't matter, or that trans people deserve no rights, or support nazis... the Gleam community probably wouldn't want to have you. Let's say there's a language that has the following on their homepage: "It's OK to be White, no child groomers. No commie bullshit." If you think it's not OK to be White, or that people should be allowed to sexually groom children, or support commies... Black and White lives matter, but that's not what Glean is signalling.
- lpil 3mo ago
  > Black and White lives matter, but that's not what Glean is signalling. It is! citation: I wrote it.
  - throwawaypath 3mo ago
    No it's not. You would never put "White and Black Lives Matter" there nor "all people's lives matter".
    - lpil 3mo ago
      Because that means something else.
      - throwawaypath 3mo ago
        WHOOSH That's the point! "Black Lives Matter" means something different.
        lpil 3mo ago
        No no, you misunderstand. It doesn't mean the same thing as you imply with your previous comment. Writing is contextual, if one only looks at the literal then one misses the other half of the meaning. Unfortunately your proposed change has added context that undermine your honourable and well-intentioned message.
        throwawaypath 3mo ago
        >Unfortunately [...] has added context that undermine your honourable and well-intentioned message. As does your original text. Congrats, you made my point for me.
        lpil 3mo ago
        Sorry, I don’t know what you mean.
- polymer8563 3mo ago
  What are you even talking about?? I made an account just to reply to this. Thousands of comments filled with poorly-written ramblings on this site and yours was the biggest I have ever seen. There are so many layers of bullshit in your comment I can't even fathom what to write, I hope you improve as a human being and learn to use that wet thing inside your skull.
  - albedoa 3mo ago
    His account is a realtime view of a freak having a mental breakdown, and the mods are like "this is fine" lol.
    - throwawaypath 3mo ago
      Very cool and worthwhile way to spend your one fleeting existence dude: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446644 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446644 Your account is a realtime view of a freak having a mental breakdown (stalking me in the comments), and the mods are like "this is fine" lol.
    - polymer8563 3mo ago
      Crazy thing this thing wasnt moderated
      - throwawaypath 3mo ago
        wasn't*
        polymer8563 3mo ago
        ragebait complete returning to hq
        throwawaypath 3mo ago
        You admission of defeat is accepted.
- tasuki 3mo ago
  > >I think so, too. > I was being sarcastic. Yes I'm fully aware - I was just playing along.

mindslight 3mo ago

The statement is obviously not about the language, but rather about the community. Drawing some basic lines to keep edgelord disruptors at bay (or at least quiet with their reactionary bullshit), so that the focus can remain on the language. Maybe it's a little overstated, but at this point, any of my worries about "woke" have been overshadowed by open fascism ("autocratic authoritarianism" for those who get triggered by the f-word).

throwawaypath 3mo ago
>Maybe it's a little overstated, but at this point, any of my worries about "woke" have been overshadowed by open fascism ("autocratic authoritarianism" for those who get triggered by the f-word). Not in the slightest. "Woke" worries have repeatedly been shown to be true in the courts. "Open fascism" has repeatedly been shown to be Trump Derangement Syndrome.

malmz 3mo ago

Extremely important information to know. It means the community around the language cares about creating a safe environment for me and many of my friends.

throwawaypath 3mo ago
>Extremely important information to know. No it's not. It conveys nothing about the language. >It means the community around the language cares about creating a safe environment for me and many of my friends. They don't specifically ban child groomers like they do "Nazis", which using your logic means the language doesn't care about creating a safe environment for children and child sex abuse victims.