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This is simply rude and wrong in its claims that (all) people (such as me) using BSD and Apache licences are doing so out of ignorance, rather than because we k
by DamonHD 3mo ago
This is simply rude and wrong in its claims that (all) people (such as me) using BSD and Apache licences are doing so out of ignorance, rather than because we know and want the effects that they have.
This childish inflammatory bile rather hurts the standing of GPL and friends, which do have appropriate applications too.
Nuance would have been a fine thing.
- microgpt 3mo agoWhat effects do you want? There is a section at the end of the post about appropriate uses of cuck licenses. Namely, when the software has network effects so that sharing it widely is more important than making sure it only has free versions.
- DamonHD 3mo agoI very much want my (open sourced) code to be used by anyone who wants to use it, in any context, including commercial, and with Apache I also want the patent protection effects. Using such an inflammatory term to refer to someone's non-preferred style of licence is unhelpful to reasonable debate.
- microgpt 3mo agoWhy do you want that? The term "cuckold" isn't inflammatory. Some people enjoy watching their partners have sex with others - and they're aware that they do. If a developer enjoys aiding Google and Amazon without getting paid or even recognized, they have the right to do so. But if they're tricked into it, that's a problem.
- minimaxir 3mo ago> The term "cuckold" isn't inflammatory. You cannot detach it from the a) contemporary usage of the term and b) the original post uses "cuck" very intentionally to evoke said contemporary usage.
- microgpt 3mo agoIt's okay to be a cuck and own it. It's only embarrassing to be a cuck when you're trying not to be a cuck. And of course also to the extent that telling anyone your fetish is automatically embarrassing.
- DamonHD 3mo agoIt's my (open source) code and I want to make it widely available, ie as open as reasonably possible, including cases such as my past small start-ups with no budget and not able to release everything open source. Why do I have to justify or explain that "why"?
- microgpt 3mo agoI'm just wondering why you want that as it can shed more light on the debate.
- DamonHD 3mo agoI just gave an example: not all potential users of code can either use GPL-ish code or are profit-driven megacorps such as Google; false dichotomies are false. There are many small or intermediate organisations (and individuals) who would like to use open source code with the fewest legal and admin complications possible. I supported a similar cohort with an early multimedia site with simple free licensing.
- microgpt 3mo agoSo your singular aim is to maximize users?
- DamonHD 3mo agoAvailability to use, without adding other complications, is a key aim. I'm trying to maximise to other people whatever value there is in the work that I've done.
- microgpt 3mo agoDo you believe that everyone being locked into a proprietary Amazon version of your code delivers more value than either: Amazon releases the source code to their version, or: lock-in hasn't occurred yet but people are free to add those same features in a free version? Isn't there ultimately more value in Amazon releasing the source code for its update than in Amazon not releasing that?