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You must live in a different New York City than the one I visited. I had the safety calibration of Tallinn, Estonia and Dubai, UAE. The subway was extremely ho

You must live in a different New York City than the one I visited. I had the safety calibration of Tallinn, Estonia and Dubai, UAE. The subway was extremely hostile. People were regularly drugged out of their mind. I saw one guy try to drink a Coca Cola upside down and spilled it all in the bus. Another crazy chased my limited mobility Estonian friend who wanted to visit nyc alongside me when she went alone for groceries. Could it be that your frame of reference is broken and/or you’re numb to it?

beau_g 3mo ago
You saw someone try to drink a soda upside down and spill it? We are going to need more than a Flock cam to stop that heinous act, perhaps a Flock robot arm that could grab the criminals arm and turn it right side up, or just restrain them while the authorities are on the way.
- steelbrain 3mo ago
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- filoleg 3mo ago
  I saw a tall man on L train stomping aggressively through the car and yelling bloody murder that he is gonna "stab the next mf I see", while attempting to swing punches at random people. The whole train ended up getting evacuated, and the train line got delayed. That was last winter. Between then and now, I saw people threatening others on the subway multiple times. The most recent incident was a few weeks ago on Q train, where a seated man was screaming at the woman across from him (who was trying to do her best to ignore him), how he was gonna kill her and "the rest of her people" (whatever that means). But please tell me how stuff like this never happens. And I am not even a subway hater overall, I take it daily, and it is my preferred method of transportation. And no, I am not taking subway into deep and shady parts of bronx or brooklyn, as heavy majority of my rides are contained between Dekalb/Jay St Metrotech (aka dt brooklyn) and midtown. It just sounds like crazy talk to me, when someone claims that the safety cams in subway cars are not, at least, somewhat helpful. At least newer A/C train cars have those cams now, and, I hope, it will lead to prosecution of serial subway harassers.
righthand 3mo ago
These are all lies. Small towns have notiriously higher crime rates than Nyc. We should send the National Guard to your small town and place cameras every where. I dont feel safe in your small town. I moved away from middle America that’s swamped in meth, high murder rate, and racism. Sorry someone spilled a coca-cola though. Your pearls must be powder in your hands by now.
- Waterluvian 3mo ago
  There’s possibly a fantasy mindset at play where people need a certain identity to be true. As we’ve witnessed on a national scale, humans have great capacity for fantastical thinking to support what a friend of mine calls their “binkie narrative.”
- arjie 3mo ago
  His small town? Tallinn is comparatively tiny to NYC admittedly but Dubai is a fairly large and urban city. I think that it doesn’t quite fit the appellation.
  - iberator 3mo ago
    Tallinn might be smaller but it's the capital - so centre of organized crime and money. this does matter in terms of safety
- tr45872267 3mo ago
  This is false. Urban areas have the highest rate of crime compared to rural and suburban. For example look at the years 2020 and 2021 from this report:[0] Table 8 Rate of victimization, by type of crime and location of residence, 2020 and 2021 Location of residence Total violent crime Violent crime excluding simple assault Total property crime 2020 2021* 2020 2021* 2020 2021* Urban 19.0 † 24.5 7.7 9.7 158.9 157.5 Suburban 16.8 16.5 5.6 5.2 90.5 86.8 Rural 13.4 11.1 4.5 4.4 65.6 57.7 You can see clearly that urban has the highest rate of crime, and this has been true for decades.[1] Also, many crimes are not recorded at all in NYC, which is why many stores have locked down all their items with a key that requires permission from a staff member to access. I haven't seen this in the small towms I've been to. [0] https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv21.pdf https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv21.pdf [1] https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/ncvrw2018/info_flyers/fact_sheets/2018NCVRW_UrbanRural_508_QC.pdf https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/ncvrw2018/...
wat10000 3mo ago
You’re describing a spilled soda as a safety issue. The other person isn’t the one with a broken frame of reference.
- nailer 3mo ago
  No, he's describing someone so stoned out of their mind they don't know how to drink a soda. I feel most people would read his comment and understand that.
  - righthand 3mo ago
    And that isnt a crime. It’s a strawman trying to say it’s a crime.
    - billfor 3mo ago
      I didn’t read his comment as saying it was a crime. Parent was commenting about feeling unsafe. People walking around stoned and trying to drink a soda bottle upside down does make some people feel unsafe because you don’t know what their next move is. Incidents like this have become more common in the last 10 years.
    - nailer 3mo ago
      It is illegal under NY Penal Law § 240.40 to appear in public under the influence of narcotics or other drugs (to the degree that you may endanger yourself/others/property or annoy people nearby). This is a violation (not a crime/misdemeanor), punishable by up to 15 days in jail and a fine of up to $250.

beau_g 3mo ago

You saw someone try to drink a soda upside down and spill it? We are going to need more than a Flock cam to stop that heinous act, perhaps a Flock robot arm that could grab the criminals arm and turn it right side up, or just restrain them while the authorities are on the way.

steelbrain 3mo ago
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filoleg 3mo ago
I saw a tall man on L train stomping aggressively through the car and yelling bloody murder that he is gonna "stab the next mf I see", while attempting to swing punches at random people. The whole train ended up getting evacuated, and the train line got delayed. That was last winter. Between then and now, I saw people threatening others on the subway multiple times. The most recent incident was a few weeks ago on Q train, where a seated man was screaming at the woman across from him (who was trying to do her best to ignore him), how he was gonna kill her and "the rest of her people" (whatever that means). But please tell me how stuff like this never happens. And I am not even a subway hater overall, I take it daily, and it is my preferred method of transportation. And no, I am not taking subway into deep and shady parts of bronx or brooklyn, as heavy majority of my rides are contained between Dekalb/Jay St Metrotech (aka dt brooklyn) and midtown. It just sounds like crazy talk to me, when someone claims that the safety cams in subway cars are not, at least, somewhat helpful. At least newer A/C train cars have those cams now, and, I hope, it will lead to prosecution of serial subway harassers.

righthand 3mo ago

These are all lies. Small towns have notiriously higher crime rates than Nyc. We should send the National Guard to your small town and place cameras every where. I dont feel safe in your small town. I moved away from middle America that’s swamped in meth, high murder rate, and racism. Sorry someone spilled a coca-cola though. Your pearls must be powder in your hands by now.

Waterluvian 3mo ago
There’s possibly a fantasy mindset at play where people need a certain identity to be true. As we’ve witnessed on a national scale, humans have great capacity for fantastical thinking to support what a friend of mine calls their “binkie narrative.”
arjie 3mo ago
His small town? Tallinn is comparatively tiny to NYC admittedly but Dubai is a fairly large and urban city. I think that it doesn’t quite fit the appellation.
- iberator 3mo ago
  Tallinn might be smaller but it's the capital - so centre of organized crime and money. this does matter in terms of safety
tr45872267 3mo ago
This is false. Urban areas have the highest rate of crime compared to rural and suburban. For example look at the years 2020 and 2021 from this report:[0] Table 8 Rate of victimization, by type of crime and location of residence, 2020 and 2021 Location of residence Total violent crime Violent crime excluding simple assault Total property crime 2020 2021* 2020 2021* 2020 2021* Urban 19.0 † 24.5 7.7 9.7 158.9 157.5 Suburban 16.8 16.5 5.6 5.2 90.5 86.8 Rural 13.4 11.1 4.5 4.4 65.6 57.7 You can see clearly that urban has the highest rate of crime, and this has been true for decades.[1] Also, many crimes are not recorded at all in NYC, which is why many stores have locked down all their items with a key that requires permission from a staff member to access. I haven't seen this in the small towms I've been to. [0] https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv21.pdf https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv21.pdf [1] https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/ncvrw2018/info_flyers/fact_sheets/2018NCVRW_UrbanRural_508_QC.pdf https://ovc.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh226/files/ncvrw2018/...

wat10000 3mo ago

You’re describing a spilled soda as a safety issue. The other person isn’t the one with a broken frame of reference.

nailer 3mo ago
No, he's describing someone so stoned out of their mind they don't know how to drink a soda. I feel most people would read his comment and understand that.
- righthand 3mo ago
  And that isnt a crime. It’s a strawman trying to say it’s a crime.
  - billfor 3mo ago
    I didn’t read his comment as saying it was a crime. Parent was commenting about feeling unsafe. People walking around stoned and trying to drink a soda bottle upside down does make some people feel unsafe because you don’t know what their next move is. Incidents like this have become more common in the last 10 years.
  - nailer 3mo ago
    It is illegal under NY Penal Law § 240.40 to appear in public under the influence of narcotics or other drugs (to the degree that you may endanger yourself/others/property or annoy people nearby). This is a violation (not a crime/misdemeanor), punishable by up to 15 days in jail and a fine of up to $250.