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EU Open Sources Ten-Year Network Development Planning Tools
- 12345ieee 3mo agoAnd where did they put it? On the biggest US platform. Someday we'll get there, someday.
- hokkos 3mo agoit's juste a model from Technical University of Munich not an official model from ENTSOE for TYNDP
- lyoncy 3mo agoIt is actually an model that has been developed in collaboration with entso-e by Open Energy Transition. You can read more about it here: https://open-tyndp.openenergytransition.org/ https://open-tyndp.openenergytransition.org/
- bcye 3mo agoWhat exactly is the issue with that?
- Phelinofist 3mo ago> US platform
- greenleafone7 3mo agoHe just told you; US platform.
- davorak 3mo agoIt can be hosted in multiple locations. I guess if the github UI becomes critical to their continued development or PR then they expose themselves to a potential rug pull by github/microsoft. I do not know much about the project so I can not tell if that is concern or if there is some other concern at play here or if those concerns apply to this project or not. Those are the types of details I wanted to see in the comment.
- greenleafone7 3mo agoI don't think it's project specific per se. It's more the way Github has been behaving lately (it's not by accident that so many big projects are leaving), and the way the US has been behaving.
- pvitz 3mo agoIf it were "the EU", it would be on https://code.europa.eu https://code.europa.eu
- raverbashing 3mo agoThis is the type of pointless complaint that really go nowhere
- dopidopHN2 3mo agoI moved stuff out of github to a private codeberg while walking my dog. The moat on that is non existant.
- gmueckl 3mo agoThe reason people cite when defending Github usually isn't the repisitory hosting itself, but the extra features like oull request management and issue tracker that also generate massive network effects by enabling the same accounts to participate in all public projects. Github is nore of a social network posing as a development tool.
- tough 3mo agocheck out tangled https://tangled.org/ https://tangled.org/
- traceroute66 3mo agoDon't forget the little `alpha` tag next to tangled ! If I'm working in software development, the last thing I want to do is trust my coding workflow to an alpha-state platform.
- dminik 3mo agoSurely can't be worse than GitHub going down every 15 minutes no?
- tough 3mo agoAlso remember "git" is decentralized itself, you're supposed to have your git repo locally too, if PR's, or issues or comments are "alpha" your code shouldn't be affected by it at all Im personally down to try alpha software usually, i just havent found the need to retrain all my muscle memory to not use GH yet, as much as I hate it's owned by microsoft nowadays. They also do offer pretty good "free tier" services for CI via Actions that otherwise you'd need to pay yourself
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- nazgob 3mo agoYikes.
- nicexe 3mo agoGit repos are distributed by design. I bet all the contributors have at least 1 branch (probably closer to an average of 3) of this project on at least 1 computer that they own.
- based2 3mo agoThey must use https://about.code.europa.eu/ https://about.code.europa.eu/ https://code.europa.eu/info/about https://code.europa.eu/info/about https://code.europa.eu/explore/projects/active https://code.europa.eu/explore/projects/active
- qprofyeh 3mo agoEducate me, what’s the point of (open-sourcing) this?
- jstanley 3mo agoPeople who are interested can look at it and use it. People who aren't interested are free to ignore it. What's the downside of open-sourcing this? We should commend bureaucracies on the rare instance that they open-source their software, not ridicule them for it.
- qprofyeh 3mo agoIt’s an honest question, perhaps not worded friendly enough. Forgive my English. Let’s zoom in on your reply, the people who are interested and look at it and use it. What will they be able to do with it?
- achllle 3mo ago1. Run the analyses themselves to help them understand it 2. Provide feedback and even improvements 3. Simply trust that the project is run in good faith because there's transparency
- lyoncy 3mo agoThe EU is demanding that the European Network of Transmission System Operators for Electricity (ENTSO-E) implement this ten-year power infrastructure plan transparently. Unfortunately, this modelling has so far been carried out using an expensive, proprietary tool (PLEXOS Energy Exemplar). The results were not easily reproducible. However, with the new model based on PyPSA-Eur, a transparent Ten-Year Network Development Plan can be created.
- qprofyeh 3mo agoThanks!
- InsideOutSanta 3mo ago
- Havoc 3mo agoNice. Better energy grid seems like an easy win for Europe. It has enough diversity of sources that just connecting it cleverly can get you crazy efficiency. e.g. Right now the UK grid is running on just over 80%+ renewable. But when the wind isn't cooperating french nuclear helps. Broad reliance on renewables just doesn't work without interconnects across large geo regions
- lyoncy 3mo agoOpen models provide much better proof and explain exactly this. They enable policymakers, who are key to grid planning, to make verifiable arguments rather than 'black box' ones. Such verifiable models are much harder to challenge.
- cynicalsecurity 3mo agoWhat a great present for Russians planning their drone attacks on Europe. Why not open source military bases and personal development too? It's all theoretically could be found in public sources anyway, so why not help Ivan save some time and put it all together. As a EU citizen, I should be able to freely receive access to public infrastructure data by request, but it should not be put online for everyone to see.
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- elevator88 3mo agoWith satellite data, any large grid infrastructure is visible from sky. See https://openinframap.org https://openinframap.org & things that are visible from sky are also visible by humans walking around. Also, some data create more benefits when being public: https://nworbmot.org/blog/open-grid-data.html https://nworbmot.org/blog/open-grid-data.html (incl. data that increases certain risks)
- photios 3mo agoCringe. China and Russia are building energy infrastructure and here we have Europe open sourcing tools to help cope with its self-inflicted bureaucratic burdens instead. Yay, sustainability!
- sublimefire 3mo agoChina is building for sure, but Russia? The majority of russia does not have normal roads, full of crappy old trains, and infrastructure which was built in the soviet times. Russia is a joke of a country, oligarchy and kleptocracy rules.