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AirBnB customer support here. We're really sorry about the inconvenience, and for your troubles... actually I'm just messing with you. Does this look like Ai

AirBnB customer support here. We're really sorry about the inconvenience, and for your troubles... actually I'm just messing with you. Does this look like AirBnB? If you can't get your issue resolved, just do a chargeback, get your money and book a hotel like a normal person. If you want to bitch on the internet, there are thousands of review sites on the internet. This is not one of them.

hackerboos 14y ago
>Does this look like AirBnB? Doesn't look like Paypal either but hey it's the top story at the moment.
daemon13 14y ago
Am I bitching? I was under impression that this site is about start-ups and what they should and should not do to grow and achieve success. If you want to listen only to good music, there is Pandora and plenty of other sites like that. Not all medicine is sweet.
- AgentConundrum 14y ago
  I think the biggest problem he (and probably other readers) has with your post is this line: > I would really appreciate if someone @AirBnB would help to intervene the existing ineffective process. No need to return the money - just return the booking to my wife, make us happy :-) This is a specific plea for action from a company, but it's directed at a forum of people who are almost all completely unrelated to that company.
  - daemon13 14y ago
    Understand, agree that it may be perceived as plea, which it is not. I can sort out my stuff myself :-) The point is - the AirBnB support process looks broken. Is their fix-my-mistake process also broken?
    - AgentConundrum 14y ago
      While you may have had a point you were trying to make, that point was buried in one paragraph of a seven paragraph post, sandwiched between a "rant" about a personal experience and a call to action directed at a specific company. I can understand why many users could misread your intent, and I was just trying to explain why you received the reaction you did.
      - daemon13 14y ago
        thank you, I appreciate, hope that wise people will see through the bush...
  - nicholassmith 14y ago
    Given HN is a part of YC, and AirBnB came out of YC, the chance of him finding someone on here who can help or point someone from the company to the post is much, much higher than if he was posting on some random forum. Plus it sounds like all the traditional options have been exhausted and in panic mode you pursue all avenues.
    - AgentConundrum 14y ago
      I know AirBnB is a YC-funded company, so I understood why OP posted it here. I didn't flag the post for that reason, and my comment was just trying to explain the reaction. This post in general reminds me of a lot of a criticism of many AskReddit posts, where the poster is accused of trying to relate their own story while tacking on a "Whats your best $topic story?" question on the end to try to make the post relevant. More specifically, these customer complaint/"bitching" posts illicit a 4chan style "not your personal army" response in a lot of people. While the post might to some good for the OP in getting a response from the company, to most readers it's just noise drowning out the signal they come here for. I'm not normally one to complain about these types of posts (and again, I'm not trying to do so right now either), but I do understand why some readers might be less than enthused by their presence.
      - nicholassmith 14y ago
        Sorry, I misread your post as you complaining rather than explaining the complaining. It is a bit of noise to signal, but if I was in the guys position I'd probably leverage as much as possible to get the problem solved.
        AgentConundrum 14y ago
        That's my fault; I could have been clearer. I often play devil's advocate, and the risk of that is that you can be misinterpreted as supporting a position when you didn't intend to.
  - thaumaturgy 14y ago
    Without making any arguments about this particular person's due diligence, I think it's clear that over the last couple of years, "raise a ruckus online" has become a reasonable tactic when dealing with companies that have poor customer support systems. I'd prefer not to see this kind of thing on HN too. On the other hand, customer support does seem to be disappearing as a trend. I'm not sure what other recourse a customer has in cases like that. (We once battled with Sage technical "support" on behalf of a client; we spent two days navigating various support channels, including paid support, before finally giving up and writing a post to our website, and then forwarding a link to that post to Sage's PR department. The very next morning we got a call from a technical specialist who was suddenly very eager to resolve our problem. Folks, this is not how you take care of your customers!)
- aw3c2 14y ago
  kinda. most of the post, both title and ending are focused on you and your anecdote.
  - daemon13 14y ago
    That's because this happened to me. I am not a journalist or consultant to post about cool start-up or how to set-up a proper customer support process across markets.
OafTobark 14y ago
Sad but sometimes posting on HN is the only way some people manage to get any attention to their issues it seems like when they've exhausted other channels to no avail. Of course HN isn't the only major source but its definitely one of them. On top of that, AirBnB is a YC company. Not that it changes anything but still worth noting. Its not exactly irrelevant.

hackerboos 14y ago

>Does this look like AirBnB? Doesn't look like Paypal either but hey it's the top story at the moment.

daemon13 14y ago

Am I bitching? I was under impression that this site is about start-ups and what they should and should not do to grow and achieve success. If you want to listen only to good music, there is Pandora and plenty of other sites like that. Not all medicine is sweet.

AgentConundrum 14y ago
I think the biggest problem he (and probably other readers) has with your post is this line: > I would really appreciate if someone @AirBnB would help to intervene the existing ineffective process. No need to return the money - just return the booking to my wife, make us happy :-) This is a specific plea for action from a company, but it's directed at a forum of people who are almost all completely unrelated to that company.
- daemon13 14y ago
  Understand, agree that it may be perceived as plea, which it is not. I can sort out my stuff myself :-) The point is - the AirBnB support process looks broken. Is their fix-my-mistake process also broken?
  - AgentConundrum 14y ago
    While you may have had a point you were trying to make, that point was buried in one paragraph of a seven paragraph post, sandwiched between a "rant" about a personal experience and a call to action directed at a specific company. I can understand why many users could misread your intent, and I was just trying to explain why you received the reaction you did.
    - daemon13 14y ago
      thank you, I appreciate, hope that wise people will see through the bush...
- nicholassmith 14y ago
  Given HN is a part of YC, and AirBnB came out of YC, the chance of him finding someone on here who can help or point someone from the company to the post is much, much higher than if he was posting on some random forum. Plus it sounds like all the traditional options have been exhausted and in panic mode you pursue all avenues.
  - AgentConundrum 14y ago
    I know AirBnB is a YC-funded company, so I understood why OP posted it here. I didn't flag the post for that reason, and my comment was just trying to explain the reaction. This post in general reminds me of a lot of a criticism of many AskReddit posts, where the poster is accused of trying to relate their own story while tacking on a "Whats your best $topic story?" question on the end to try to make the post relevant. More specifically, these customer complaint/"bitching" posts illicit a 4chan style "not your personal army" response in a lot of people. While the post might to some good for the OP in getting a response from the company, to most readers it's just noise drowning out the signal they come here for. I'm not normally one to complain about these types of posts (and again, I'm not trying to do so right now either), but I do understand why some readers might be less than enthused by their presence.
    - nicholassmith 14y ago
      Sorry, I misread your post as you complaining rather than explaining the complaining. It is a bit of noise to signal, but if I was in the guys position I'd probably leverage as much as possible to get the problem solved.
      - AgentConundrum 14y ago
        That's my fault; I could have been clearer. I often play devil's advocate, and the risk of that is that you can be misinterpreted as supporting a position when you didn't intend to.
- thaumaturgy 14y ago
  Without making any arguments about this particular person's due diligence, I think it's clear that over the last couple of years, "raise a ruckus online" has become a reasonable tactic when dealing with companies that have poor customer support systems. I'd prefer not to see this kind of thing on HN too. On the other hand, customer support does seem to be disappearing as a trend. I'm not sure what other recourse a customer has in cases like that. (We once battled with Sage technical "support" on behalf of a client; we spent two days navigating various support channels, including paid support, before finally giving up and writing a post to our website, and then forwarding a link to that post to Sage's PR department. The very next morning we got a call from a technical specialist who was suddenly very eager to resolve our problem. Folks, this is not how you take care of your customers!)
aw3c2 14y ago
kinda. most of the post, both title and ending are focused on you and your anecdote.
- daemon13 14y ago
  That's because this happened to me. I am not a journalist or consultant to post about cool start-up or how to set-up a proper customer support process across markets.

OafTobark 14y ago

Sad but sometimes posting on HN is the only way some people manage to get any attention to their issues it seems like when they've exhausted other channels to no avail. Of course HN isn't the only major source but its definitely one of them. On top of that, AirBnB is a YC company. Not that it changes anything but still worth noting. Its not exactly irrelevant.