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also the same 'j' found in words like 'jujuism', 'jejunities', and 'bejeezus', also by a magical coincidence the same one in most Latin fonts, and even some ran

also the same 'j' found in words like 'jujuism', 'jejunities', and 'bejeezus', also by a magical coincidence the same one in most Latin fonts, and even some random text strings such as 'pj$4' But I suppose you're saying ASCII 10 was chosen as newly because it aligns with the down arrow on keyboards of the time. Maybe.

rgoulter 4mo ago
> I suppose you're saying ASCII 10 was chosen as newly because it aligns with the down arrow on keyboards of the time. Maybe. The linked StackExchange has it as: > What character was used for what control code was mostly a matter of bitwise arithmetics. LF is ^J because J happens to be at the corresponding location in the corresponding column of the table (+ 64 in decimal)
- microgpt 4mo ago
  and did they choose that code because the J key had a down arrow printed on it?
  - ahazred8ta 4mo ago
    No, the Baudot / Western Union mechanical teletype code assignments were worked out in the late 1800s and early 1900s. This was later developed into ASCII. Computer keyboards came much later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code
kps 4mo ago
Other way around. ASCII classified control characters into blocks and newline ended up a bit-flip away from J, so the ADM-3A printed ‘↓’ on the ‘J’ key.
- Joker_vD 4mo ago
  Yes, and ADM-3A also had "↑" on the "K" key, because \013 is vertical tabulation (VT), and "→" on the "L" because \014 is form feed (FF). It all makes perfect sense. If terminfo database is to be believed, quite a lot of other terminals reused this control sequences too, for some reason.
  - kps 4mo ago
    In the era when video terminals were new I have to guess that K and L were just plausibly related enough to justify using them for additional cursor motions, after H and J fit exactly.

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also the same 'j' found in words like 'jujuism', 'jejunities', and 'bejeezus', also by a magical coincidence the same one in most Latin fonts, and even some ran

by microgpt 4mo ago

rgoulter 4mo ago
> I suppose you're saying ASCII 10 was chosen as newly because it aligns with the down arrow on keyboards of the time. Maybe. The linked StackExchange has it as: > What character was used for what control code was mostly a matter of bitwise arithmetics. LF is ^J because J happens to be at the corresponding location in the corresponding column of the table (+ 64 in decimal)
- microgpt 4mo ago
  and did they choose that code because the J key had a down arrow printed on it?
  - ahazred8ta 4mo ago
    No, the Baudot / Western Union mechanical teletype code assignments were worked out in the late 1800s and early 1900s. This was later developed into ASCII. Computer keyboards came much later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code
kps 4mo ago
Other way around. ASCII classified control characters into blocks and newline ended up a bit-flip away from J, so the ADM-3A printed ‘↓’ on the ‘J’ key.
- Joker_vD 4mo ago
  Yes, and ADM-3A also had "↑" on the "K" key, because \013 is vertical tabulation (VT), and "→" on the "L" because \014 is form feed (FF). It all makes perfect sense. If terminfo database is to be believed, quite a lot of other terminals reused this control sequences too, for some reason.
  - kps 4mo ago
    In the era when video terminals were new I have to guess that K and L were just plausibly related enough to justify using them for additional cursor motions, after H and J fit exactly.