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I agree with you that consumer hostile behaviour should be illegal. Realistically, governments want this because it gives them more control so its not going to

by graemep 4mo ago

I agree with you that consumer hostile behaviour should be illegal. Realistically, governments want this because it gives them more control so its not going to happen. "its from China" is a good reason for many countries. A lot of countries are currently worried about their dependence on the US. They would have a lot more to worry about if they were dependent on China. Is it a good idea for European countries to put themselves in a position where China could disable half the vehicles in their country? The same for every Asian country that might have a dispute with China. Just borrowing money from China has proved to be a disaster for some Asian countries even without a dispute.

idiotsecant 4mo ago
I'm gonna blow your mind here... Perhaps we need open firmware in our devices so we know if China, the US government, or Google is adding backdoors to the hardware we own? Why is it that when we deal with China it's acceptable not to trust the vendor but when we buy from literally anyone else we have to accept the enormous number of backdoors and implicit spying that comes with it? China isn't the problem. The perverse incentives created when we don't own our own gear is.
- graemep 4mo ago
  > I'm gonna blow your mind here... Perhaps we need open firmware in our devices so we know if China, the US government, or Google is adding backdoors to the hardware we own? Yes, dream on. How are you going to politically push through something very few people even understand? I covered this is in the first line of my comment. > Why is it that when we deal with China it's acceptable not to trust the vendor but when we buy from literally anyone else we have to accept the enormous number of backdoors and implicit spying that comes with it? You have to accept it from someone. You seem to have missed my point that for many people (and countries) trusting Chinese vendors is worse than trusting the alternatives.
  - idiotsecant 4mo ago
    Why do we have to accept it? People assume so many distasteful aspects of our society are inviolable features of reality and not just something some people decided.

by graemep 4mo ago

idiotsecant 4mo ago

I'm gonna blow your mind here... Perhaps we need open firmware in our devices so we know if China, the US government, or Google is adding backdoors to the hardware we own? Why is it that when we deal with China it's acceptable not to trust the vendor but when we buy from literally anyone else we have to accept the enormous number of backdoors and implicit spying that comes with it? China isn't the problem. The perverse incentives created when we don't own our own gear is.

graemep 4mo ago
> I'm gonna blow your mind here... Perhaps we need open firmware in our devices so we know if China, the US government, or Google is adding backdoors to the hardware we own? Yes, dream on. How are you going to politically push through something very few people even understand? I covered this is in the first line of my comment. > Why is it that when we deal with China it's acceptable not to trust the vendor but when we buy from literally anyone else we have to accept the enormous number of backdoors and implicit spying that comes with it? You have to accept it from someone. You seem to have missed my point that for many people (and countries) trusting Chinese vendors is worse than trusting the alternatives.
- idiotsecant 4mo ago
  Why do we have to accept it? People assume so many distasteful aspects of our society are inviolable features of reality and not just something some people decided.