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If you go to China you will see plenty of KFC, Starbucks, Apple, and Tesla. American companies that all make billions out of the Chinese market. Yet the US gov

• ronsor 3mo ago
  Those are the exceptions that prove the rule. It's very difficult for US or Western companies in general to do business in China without opaque restrictions, corruptions, and share ownership hoops. If the US is playing games, then it's closer to kids playing soccer on weekends; China is already in the pro leagues.
  • chvid 3mo ago
    The simple story is: If you go to China you will see US brands everywhere. If you go to the US, you will see Chinese brands nowhere.
    • Markoff 3mo ago
      Really, you will see TCL (and Hisense) nowhere in US? I recommend visiting any store selling TVs. Same goes for Thinkpad/Motorola, but I guess there at could argue these are not original Chinese brands.
      • busterarm 3mo ago
        Also Tencent, GE, Smithfield Foods, Legendary Pictures, DJI, AMC Theaters…
        • 05 3mo ago
          > DJI Uh, about that.. https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-416839A1.pdf https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-416839A1.pdf
          • busterarm 3mo ago
            DJI makes a ton more than just drones.
            • 05 3mo ago
              Yes and unless they start making new ones without any electronics in them they're all still banned
              • busterarm 3mo ago
                That's also just new products. Anything they already have been selling they can still sell.
      • chvid 3mo ago
        Yes - really. The presence of US companies in China is huge and everywhere whereas the presence of Chinese companies in the US is tiny.
        • Markoff 3mo ago
          > If you go to the US, you will see Chinese brands nowhere. is their presence tiny or are they nowhere? you can't have both, something something moving the goalpost...
    • deaux 3mo ago
      Anker/Ugreen, Shokz, Insta360, RoboRock, League of Legends, Genshin Impact/Honkai Star Rail, Lenovo, TikTok, Shein, Temu. > If you go to the US, you will see Chinese brands nowhere. You'll see the above very commonly in people's homes and on people's phones in the US. You're making the mistake of limiting your view to "retail businesses on the street" when those have been going out of fashion in the first place. All of the above are brands that are commonly seen in the US and a lot of people (especially those under 30) are familiar with.
• chvid 3mo ago
  Anyway - the answer to the rhetorical question - is there anyone thinking "it could be our turn soon" - seems to be a resounding "no".
• wmf 3mo ago
  We shouldn't trade privacy for fried chicken.