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I hope people get the right message from this, which is: The way people talk about "Capitalism" is most often silly and counterproductive because most of the t
by jrm4 3mo ago
I hope people get the right message from this, which is:
The way people talk about "Capitalism" is most often silly and counterproductive because most of the time -- the person that hates capitalism and the person that loves capitalism are talking about nearly entirely different things.
- dudeinjapan 3mo agoAlso, should we capitalize the "C" in "Capitalism"? One might think we should, because C is a capital letter. But capital itself is lowercase, and therein lies the paradox.
- t-3 3mo agoCapitalism was a term coined by Marx, so not really surprising that most using it are anti-capitalist.
- kubb 3mo agoI think it’s productive because it serves to stabilize the society by giving it an ideological underpinning. Roughly: there’s no better alternative to capitalism and we have capitalism therefore we have reached optimal society.
- microgpt 3mo agojust in case anyone else misunderstood this comment on their first reading, kubb is not praising capitalism here
- jrm4 3mo agoI think you're doing the thing I'm literally railing against; I believe the tendency to turn a relatively simple concept like "we should have a society that has peace and also favorable trades" into IDEOLOGY is precisely how we end up with overreach.
- kubb 3mo agoIdeology isn't something you can avoid. It's always present in a society to support the power structures. Conflating "just having markets" with the current form of capitalism in western countries is exactly the kind of work needed to uphold the "obvious truths" that keep things going.
- jrm4 3mo agoDoubt it. Explain China?
- kubb 3mo agoChina has its own ideology which upholds the power structures over there. It's very different from its western counterpart. Part of it is that yes there may not be freedom of expression, but thanks to the Party's competent guidance the great Chinese nation is restoring its rightful place as a world leader.