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The "gut-brain axis" is mostly bullshit invented to cope with the fact that doctors have sent patients to shrinks for decades with real sicknesses. Everybody kn

by jona-f 3mo ago

The "gut-brain axis" is mostly bullshit invented to cope with the fact that doctors have sent patients to shrinks for decades with real sicknesses. Everybody knows you feel bad when your digestive is out of balance. It's the same english word for "I'm sick" and "I feel sick" since forever. No magical newly found "gut-brain axis" needed. Eating junk food, especially sweetened food is a drug. You can do a withdrawal and get the reduction of food noise reported with semaglutide without getting dependent on another drug with so far unknown long-term effects.

theshrike79 3mo ago
But the drug feeds the flora in your gut, which tells your brain to crave more of it. Like if you completely cut off sugary foods for 2-4 weeks you won't crave them as much. Why? The gut flora that feeds off sugar specifically dies off and can't send as strong signals to your brain. Thus: gut-brain axis. It's a thing and will become more important when we study it more. Your brain isn't as much in control as you think.
- jona-f 3mo ago
  Your explanation doesn't seem plausible to me. If your stomach and small intestine is working properly, the bulk of the bacteria shouldn't see much sugar. Afaik the mechanisms how the intestines regulate the gut flora are not well understood. At least not to the point where there are any working treatment for the many widespread digestive problems. There is some slow progress around fecal transplant research.
  - theshrike79 3mo ago
    There's a bunch of "in mice" research on it, but with actual humans it's really hard because we don't yet have the tools to measure the baseline composition of gut bacteria before and after the experiment. It's all mostly just anecdotal and empirical. Same with the fecal transplant stuff, which (AFAIK) basically replaces one persons gut biome with a different one. Which causes cravings to change completely for the recipient, in some cases resulting in weight loss. Which, to me, kinda tells that it's not a willpower or brain thing, it's just the gut biome controlling what you "want" to eat.

by jona-f 3mo ago

theshrike79 3mo ago

But the drug feeds the flora in your gut, which tells your brain to crave more of it. Like if you completely cut off sugary foods for 2-4 weeks you won't crave them as much. Why? The gut flora that feeds off sugar specifically dies off and can't send as strong signals to your brain. Thus: gut-brain axis. It's a thing and will become more important when we study it more. Your brain isn't as much in control as you think.

jona-f 3mo ago
Your explanation doesn't seem plausible to me. If your stomach and small intestine is working properly, the bulk of the bacteria shouldn't see much sugar. Afaik the mechanisms how the intestines regulate the gut flora are not well understood. At least not to the point where there are any working treatment for the many widespread digestive problems. There is some slow progress around fecal transplant research.
- theshrike79 3mo ago
  There's a bunch of "in mice" research on it, but with actual humans it's really hard because we don't yet have the tools to measure the baseline composition of gut bacteria before and after the experiment. It's all mostly just anecdotal and empirical. Same with the fecal transplant stuff, which (AFAIK) basically replaces one persons gut biome with a different one. Which causes cravings to change completely for the recipient, in some cases resulting in weight loss. Which, to me, kinda tells that it's not a willpower or brain thing, it's just the gut biome controlling what you "want" to eat.