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This is word salad. People are making things that you want so they can make a living and you can have something you want. This is a win-win. The only problem is

by wilg 4mo ago

This is word salad. People are making things that you want so they can make a living and you can have something you want. This is a win-win. The only problem is you have to pay for things which people only offer in exchange for money. You can cheat them, but it's not cool to pretend you're doing it for some big amorphous moral fight.

hananova 4mo ago
Except, in many cases, they will not sell you the superior product, for any amount of money.
athrowaway3z 4mo ago
You call my comment word salad, but the model you present of supply-and-demand is so shallow it can't be used to explain why copyright was first created, and what problem it solved. Something that legislation about copyright usually does get right. This Santa Claus version of reality is exactly the kind of mainstream ignorance I was complaining about.
- memcg 3mo ago
  "As a very flattened retelling of history, it was only with the boomers that we reached the tipping point on how people started to think about copyright (Copyright != Attributed Authorship). With them, a majority started to believe in a world where the human history they consumed was a gift from the past, and that what they themselves create must be bought by future generations." I honestly just don't know what your are trying to say and what it has to do with boomers. Are you just talking about physical media copying of books, CDs, DVDs, etc.?
  - athrowaway3z 3mo ago
    The idea that things are created because there is long-running and expansive copyright, is a story that only became the norm around 1950 - i.e. boomers. Today any kids uploading their YT video thinks of their own copyright. This explanation of copyright as "creator protection" is a story much younger than copyright itself. Its incongruent with history or how its used today >99.99% of the time.
    - memcg 3mo ago
      Okay, I was trying to separate legislative changes that occurred prior to the invention of the hardware and software that makes coping and distributing digital files or printed copies trivial today.

by wilg 4mo ago

hananova 4mo ago

Except, in many cases, they will not sell you the superior product, for any amount of money.

athrowaway3z 4mo ago

You call my comment word salad, but the model you present of supply-and-demand is so shallow it can't be used to explain why copyright was first created, and what problem it solved. Something that legislation about copyright usually does get right. This Santa Claus version of reality is exactly the kind of mainstream ignorance I was complaining about.

memcg 3mo ago
"As a very flattened retelling of history, it was only with the boomers that we reached the tipping point on how people started to think about copyright (Copyright != Attributed Authorship). With them, a majority started to believe in a world where the human history they consumed was a gift from the past, and that what they themselves create must be bought by future generations." I honestly just don't know what your are trying to say and what it has to do with boomers. Are you just talking about physical media copying of books, CDs, DVDs, etc.?
- athrowaway3z 3mo ago
  The idea that things are created because there is long-running and expansive copyright, is a story that only became the norm around 1950 - i.e. boomers. Today any kids uploading their YT video thinks of their own copyright. This explanation of copyright as "creator protection" is a story much younger than copyright itself. Its incongruent with history or how its used today >99.99% of the time.
  - memcg 3mo ago
    Okay, I was trying to separate legislative changes that occurred prior to the invention of the hardware and software that makes coping and distributing digital files or printed copies trivial today.