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>Sarah Wynn-Williams served as director of global public policy at Facebook, now operating under parent company Meta Platforms Inc., from 2011 until her firing
by d-cc 3mo ago
>Sarah Wynn-Williams served as director of global public policy at Facebook, now operating under parent company Meta Platforms Inc., from 2011 until her firing in 2017. “Careless People” alleges cruel and otherwise disturbing behavior by CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other executives.
I would have liked to learn about specific allegations of "cruel and otherwise disturbing" from the article, instead of leaving this completely ambiguous.
If you know, you know.
- alilleybrinker 3mo agoIt’s in the book. That’s the entire point of the book.
- sam_lowry_ 3mo agoSo...any spoilers?
- tough 3mo agoSo you're impliedly stating the article merely acts as a vehicle to advertise this book?
- d-cc 3mo agoI just asked gemini. >Her memoir claims that former COO Sheryl Sandberg spent $13,000 on lingerie for herself and a young female assistant during a corporate trip to Europe, and later asked that assistant to join her in "the only bed on the plane" during a private jet flight home. Sounds about right. If only you knew how bad things are. If there are any executives reading this who have, been allowed to, notice chunks of their memory missing recently: there's a chance we made you do worse. And that's okay.
- jordanb 3mo agoOne good example: Facebook was ignoring Brazilian law. An employee in brazil was arrested and charged with contempt. He spent a while in jail. Zuck started posting about the guy being a martyr for free expression while the lawyers trying to negotiate the release begged him to keep quiet. Eventually the guy gets released and is invited to California to meet Zuck. Except by that time Zuck had forgotten all about it and ignored the guy.
- FireBeyond 3mo ago"This feature/posture you really want to roll out in Burma is something that Burmese protestors, hell, the Burmese government has told us will be used to harm dissidents." "It's a really important feature to me and the exec team." "..." "..." Actually, the whole Burma trip was a fiasco. Sarah doesn't come off great, either, more someone who was happy riding the wave until she realized just how many people were getting thrown under the bus for the sake of Zuck and Sandberg, including her and her own relationship - but was also someone with not enough "clout" to push back meaningfully (though it could be argued that there wasn't anyone with enough clout to push back against either of them, let alone both). That's what it ultimately came down to, those two, like so many other people at that level, do not give one single shit about anyone except themselves, and anything beyond their bank accounts and/or egos.
- matheusmoreira 3mo agoI remember that arrest... I remember agreeing with Zuck's post on free speech. How naive I was. People went to jail for this guy and he didn't give enough of a shit to know their names.
- d-cc 3mo agoThe zuck is an incredibly busy person, with a lot on his mind. This sounds more like a failure of his staff, why assign blame to him personally for this, as if it somehow reflects poorly on his character?
- watwut 3mo agoIt does reflect poorly. Both running his mouth while layers beg him to be silent and acting like jerk when he met the guy. He was in prison because of zuckenberg. He should know.
- randycupertino 3mo agoHe throws huge temper tantrums and pouts so much when he loses at board games while traveling on the facebook private jet so all his staff conspires to let him win. I read the book. Also Sheryl Sandberg comes off pretty badly, buying $13,000 worth of lingerie for her "cutie" personal assistants and asking them to wear skimpy pajamas and snuggle with her in the bed on the corporate jet. There is a lot of corporate private jet related drama in the book.
- sandworm101 3mo agoA bed in a corprate jet is a huge red flag. They have a place in private aircraft, but a company jet is a total non-starter.
- ribosometronome 3mo agoRed eye international flights where the execs sleep?
- worik 3mo agoIn a cot. Not a double bed, in its on room
- sandworm101 3mo agoGet lay flat seats. A bed isnt for sleeping during flight. The one place they are practical is some traveling shows where a private jet becomes a mobile hotel room/office, a much more expensive tour bus. But even then, you sleep in them on the ground. Not going to a hotel means less drives through the city, which is a pain if you are only in town for one night. Sleep/eat at the airport and you have saved many hours.
- senordevnyc 3mo agoIt's hilarious that anyone would give a shit about Zuck having a bad attitude about losing board games. Hopefully the book has something more damning than that.
- ipython 3mo agoExactly why I spent time to track down the complaint: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.472927/gov.uscourts.cand.472927.1.0_1.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.47...
- d-cc 3mo ago> Ms. Wynn-Williams’s colleagues were frustrated that they could hear her baby in the background on late night work calls. As a proposed “solution,” Ms. Sandberg told Ms. Wynn-Williams that she should “[b]e smart and hire a Filipina nanny” because they are “English speaking, [have a] sunny disposition, and [are] service oriented.” This is a strange thing to emphasize, but I guess expected for law-trash. What do you think that pay is for? Stop being weird.
- ipython 3mo agoYikes. If it's normal for a superior in any company you work for to tell you how to run your personal life, to include the race of the "service people" you need to hire on your own dime, you have some seriously toxic workplaces. I suppose it's okay for Sandberg to also ask you to "come to bed" in the Meta private jet as well? (to be further met with a lack of surprise when you report it, because "half the department" had already reported that they'd shared a bed with Sandberg...) I guess the sexual harassment is, as you say, "what the pay is for"?
- ipaddr 3mo agoFilipino isn't a race. It's the name for people who come from a specific country. We use to rave about Japanese cars or German's work ethic. Same thing here. And service people is an okay term to discribe people who work in the service industry.
- d-cc 3mo agoI was going to reply with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_Philippines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_Philippin... but it came off to me as more snarky than productive, so I did not.
- bob406 3mo agoFortune can't repeat those allegations for fear of being sued by Facebook or worse: loosing access to their ad and user tracking network.
- d-cc 3mo ago> loosing access to their ad and user tracking network. That sort of makes sense. I would question what the value of meta's "reputation" is to begin with, especially in the context of fortune's "journalism".