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> You don't try to achieve a goal when you don't have the military means to achieve at a cost you are willing to bear. Did the military advise the administrati

by rayiner 4mo ago

> You don't try to achieve a goal when you don't have the military means to achieve at a cost you are willing to bear. Did the military advise the administration it would take a lengthy ground war to control the strait? Or was it pitched as something the Navy could do without a ground occupation?

pohl 4mo ago
It wouldn’t matter if they had. He’s doesn’t listen to anything he doesn’t want to hear. At this point one can safely assume that he was told exactly how this strategic defeat would play out, and it went in one ear and out the other.
- rayiner 4mo ago
  I don’t think we can assume that. Maybe Trump ignored warnings (though if that happened I would have expected it to be leaked). But there’s also a possibility the Navy fucked up. And that’s important to consider, because that’s something that needs to be fixed.
  - pohl 4mo ago
    We already know that he doesn’t read the PDB, and that they even tried sprinkling his own name throughout the text to hold his interest.
  - hypeatei 4mo ago
    > though if that happened I would have expected it to be leaked From Feburary: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/23/iran-strike-trump-gen-dan-caine-vance-rubio https://www.axios.com/2026/02/23/iran-strike-trump-gen-dan-c... Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine has been advising President Trump and top officials that a military campaign against Iran could carry significant risks, in particular the possibility of becoming entangled in a prolonged conflict, Recently: https://www.ms.now/news/trump-iran-war-haberman-swan-book-interview-strait-hormuz https://www.ms.now/news/trump-iran-war-haberman-swan-book-in... “He felt that this regime was a paper tiger, that this was going to be a fast war,” Swan said on “The Last Word.” “He just said he felt that that was going to be the case, that they were going to collapse very quickly.” “It’s a form of magical thinking, actually, is what it all boils down to,” he added.

by rayiner 4mo ago

pohl 4mo ago

It wouldn’t matter if they had. He’s doesn’t listen to anything he doesn’t want to hear. At this point one can safely assume that he was told exactly how this strategic defeat would play out, and it went in one ear and out the other.

rayiner 4mo ago
I don’t think we can assume that. Maybe Trump ignored warnings (though if that happened I would have expected it to be leaked). But there’s also a possibility the Navy fucked up. And that’s important to consider, because that’s something that needs to be fixed.
- pohl 4mo ago
  We already know that he doesn’t read the PDB, and that they even tried sprinkling his own name throughout the text to hold his interest.
- hypeatei 4mo ago
  > though if that happened I would have expected it to be leaked From Feburary: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/23/iran-strike-trump-gen-dan-caine-vance-rubio https://www.axios.com/2026/02/23/iran-strike-trump-gen-dan-c... Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Dan Caine has been advising President Trump and top officials that a military campaign against Iran could carry significant risks, in particular the possibility of becoming entangled in a prolonged conflict, Recently: https://www.ms.now/news/trump-iran-war-haberman-swan-book-interview-strait-hormuz https://www.ms.now/news/trump-iran-war-haberman-swan-book-in... “He felt that this regime was a paper tiger, that this was going to be a fast war,” Swan said on “The Last Word.” “He just said he felt that that was going to be the case, that they were going to collapse very quickly.” “It’s a form of magical thinking, actually, is what it all boils down to,” he added.