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I don't understand how this doesn't entirely screw the TAM for these companies? As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and

by __alexs 4mo ago

I don't understand how this doesn't entirely screw the TAM for these companies? As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it.

vld_chk 4mo ago
> now Unfortunately, Europe should had made this conclusion at least 18 months ago, not now. Watch out European politics procrastinate for at least one more year hoping that Trump will reverse. Then procrastinate more, because “elections soon, maybe Dems will win and reverse”. I live in Europe and will never go to work in the US; but EU/UK inability to solve national security problems is beyond pathetic.
- __alexs 4mo ago
  Oh sure the EU is terrible at all technology policy but it also seems like this is sort of a don't interrupt your enemy when they are making as mistake situation. If the US commit to handicapping their AI industry like this it's going to destroy the competitiveness of those companies globally. All of those US spending commitments on data centres etc are going to collapse, or americans will need to pay 2x the token cost of the rest of the world. Both very bad options.
subscribed 4mo ago
AFAIR there was the evidence posted for the specific three letter creeps snooping specifically on Airbus and sending everything to Boeing, long time ago, when "Echelon" was considered a tinfoil hat conspiracy.
bvcp 4mo ago
Watch the eu do the same thing
- dgellow 4mo ago
  By doing it, as leader in the industry, the world hegemon, and self-titled „leader of the free world“, the US gave the implicit permission for any other country to do the same
- __alexs 4mo ago
  If the EU develops a market leading model to even control in the first place I think that would at least be a neutrally good outcome.
dgellow 4mo ago
> As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it Yes, that’s the only sane conclusion. And yes it does screw the TAM, but it’s not like the AI vendors had actual realistic economic plans to begin with

by __alexs 4mo ago

I don't understand how this doesn't entirely screw the TAM for these companies? As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it.

vld_chk 4mo ago

> now Unfortunately, Europe should had made this conclusion at least 18 months ago, not now. Watch out European politics procrastinate for at least one more year hoping that Trump will reverse. Then procrastinate more, because “elections soon, maybe Dems will win and reverse”. I live in Europe and will never go to work in the US; but EU/UK inability to solve national security problems is beyond pathetic.

__alexs 4mo ago
Oh sure the EU is terrible at all technology policy but it also seems like this is sort of a don't interrupt your enemy when they are making as mistake situation. If the US commit to handicapping their AI industry like this it's going to destroy the competitiveness of those companies globally. All of those US spending commitments on data centres etc are going to collapse, or americans will need to pay 2x the token cost of the rest of the world. Both very bad options.

subscribed 4mo ago

AFAIR there was the evidence posted for the specific three letter creeps snooping specifically on Airbus and sending everything to Boeing, long time ago, when "Echelon" was considered a tinfoil hat conspiracy.

bvcp 4mo ago

Watch the eu do the same thing

dgellow 4mo ago
By doing it, as leader in the industry, the world hegemon, and self-titled „leader of the free world“, the US gave the implicit permission for any other country to do the same
__alexs 4mo ago
If the EU develops a market leading model to even control in the first place I think that would at least be a neutrally good outcome.

dgellow 4mo ago

> As an EU company I think I now basically have to consider US AI as hostile and avoid it Yes, that’s the only sane conclusion. And yes it does screw the TAM, but it’s not like the AI vendors had actual realistic economic plans to begin with