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> I bought my son a bigger 3D printer and told him to stop playing with that boy. I can't think of a better response to that situation. I'm going to use it whe

by qwerpy 4mo ago

> I bought my son a bigger 3D printer and told him to stop playing with that boy. I can't think of a better response to that situation. I'm going to use it when appropriate for my own kids when the time comes. Also - your kindergartner is autonomously searching for 3d printer models and executing prints at that age? That's awesome. Curious what 3d printer and what mechanism he uses to search and initiate prints.

gdiamos 4mo ago
He started with tinkercad and thingiverse. I tried basic elegoo and bambu printers. He can’t read very well but he likes dragging shapes around on a tablet. He would ask me to find shapes using the search engines then he mixes them together or reshapes them. I would add them to his history. This is why I was surprised to hear about 3D printed guns. I was quite sure there wasn’t anything like that in the history. It was a good discussion topic about why adults get so bothered by things that look like guns.
- crtified 4mo ago
  >It was a good discussion topic about why adults get so bothered by things that look like guns. I think that's because parent-child is the strongest bond known to humanity, so anything symbolic of (or against) child safety evokes the strongest emotional responses we can ever have. Guns, when loaded, are one of the extremely few consumer objects capable of being held in a child's hand and, with a physical ease similar to changing TV channel with a remote, destroy or end a life. (and, of course, one of the first rules of guns is "always assume it's loaded") And so - especially in a country like the USA where guns are a prominent part of culture, and thus talked and thought about a lot - the conflation of the above means that for a significant cohort of parents, guns are one iconic symbol of their ultimate nightmare : losing their child somehow. The fact that the USA needs separate Wikipedia pages per decade in order to make the summary list of school shootings manageable is illustrative of why some have developed such phobias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_school_shootings_in_t...
  - somenameforme 4mo ago
    School shootings are extremely rare and so I was curious how it could be that large. The nuance is that those pages are not just listing school shootings as commonly understood/feared, but any shooting involving a school in any way. So for instance from the 2010s [1] page you get teacher shooting principle, biology professor (female no less!) shooting other professors, guy killing himself in a university library after firing off a couple of rounds at nobody, 60+ guy shooting his 60+ year old wife in a parking lot then killing self, and so on. I think that's a bit dodgy, because there's something like 130k+ schools of all sorts in the US [2], so you have a massive multiplier there. To put that number in contrast, there are fewer than 17k Starbucks in the US. Do the same by basically any metric, positive or negative, and you're going to similarly see a huge number of incidents. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2010s) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_th... [2] - https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84
    - watwut 4mo ago
      All the dodgy things listed in the second paragraph are solid school shootings?
      - amanaplanacanal 4mo ago
        They don't pattern match with what people visualize as school shootings: kids bringing guns to school to shoot other kids.
        watwut 4mo ago
        It is a nitpick, but majority of what you mean was (large ones) were committed by adults. List by deaths is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_by_death_toll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_th...
    - defrost 4mo ago
- qwerpy 4mo ago
  Nice. My kids are still at the stage where they can only request specific objects and colors but I can’t wait to gradually involve them more and more in the process of model design, slicing, and printing. There are valid concerns with 3d printing guns but I expect adults to be able to let kids be kids when it comes to something like a Star Wars figurine.
- WillAdams 3mo ago
  Have you considered BlockSCAD? When the kid is older, the best movie on the societal aspects of firearms is _Witness_.

by qwerpy 4mo ago

gdiamos 4mo ago

He started with tinkercad and thingiverse. I tried basic elegoo and bambu printers. He can’t read very well but he likes dragging shapes around on a tablet. He would ask me to find shapes using the search engines then he mixes them together or reshapes them. I would add them to his history. This is why I was surprised to hear about 3D printed guns. I was quite sure there wasn’t anything like that in the history. It was a good discussion topic about why adults get so bothered by things that look like guns.

crtified 4mo ago
>It was a good discussion topic about why adults get so bothered by things that look like guns. I think that's because parent-child is the strongest bond known to humanity, so anything symbolic of (or against) child safety evokes the strongest emotional responses we can ever have. Guns, when loaded, are one of the extremely few consumer objects capable of being held in a child's hand and, with a physical ease similar to changing TV channel with a remote, destroy or end a life. (and, of course, one of the first rules of guns is "always assume it's loaded") And so - especially in a country like the USA where guns are a prominent part of culture, and thus talked and thought about a lot - the conflation of the above means that for a significant cohort of parents, guns are one iconic symbol of their ultimate nightmare : losing their child somehow. The fact that the USA needs separate Wikipedia pages per decade in order to make the summary list of school shootings manageable is illustrative of why some have developed such phobias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_school_shootings_in_t...
- somenameforme 4mo ago
  School shootings are extremely rare and so I was curious how it could be that large. The nuance is that those pages are not just listing school shootings as commonly understood/feared, but any shooting involving a school in any way. So for instance from the 2010s [1] page you get teacher shooting principle, biology professor (female no less!) shooting other professors, guy killing himself in a university library after firing off a couple of rounds at nobody, 60+ guy shooting his 60+ year old wife in a parking lot then killing self, and so on. I think that's a bit dodgy, because there's something like 130k+ schools of all sorts in the US [2], so you have a massive multiplier there. To put that number in contrast, there are fewer than 17k Starbucks in the US. Do the same by basically any metric, positive or negative, and you're going to similarly see a huge number of incidents. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2010s) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_th... [2] - https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84
  - watwut 4mo ago
    All the dodgy things listed in the second paragraph are solid school shootings?
    - amanaplanacanal 4mo ago
      They don't pattern match with what people visualize as school shootings: kids bringing guns to school to shoot other kids.
      - watwut 4mo ago
        It is a nitpick, but majority of what you mean was (large ones) were committed by adults. List by deaths is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_by_death_toll https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_th...
  - defrost 4mo ago
qwerpy 4mo ago
Nice. My kids are still at the stage where they can only request specific objects and colors but I can’t wait to gradually involve them more and more in the process of model design, slicing, and printing. There are valid concerns with 3d printing guns but I expect adults to be able to let kids be kids when it comes to something like a Star Wars figurine.
WillAdams 3mo ago
Have you considered BlockSCAD? When the kid is older, the best movie on the societal aspects of firearms is _Witness_.