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I think you're playing language games here. What does an "analog virtual thing" look like? Digital = expressed by discrete bits of encoded digits (1s and 0s).

I think you're playing language games here. What does an "analog virtual thing" look like? Digital = expressed by discrete bits of encoded digits (1s and 0s). Analog = lossy and necessarily physical A "digital physical thing" is just a physical thing (disc) with digital things encoded on it.

fluoridation 4mo ago
>What does an "analog virtual thing" look like? The image of an apple, stored as an analog signal on a magnetic tape. >A "digital physical thing" is just a physical thing (disc) with digital things encoded on it. Correct, a digital physical thing stores digital virtual things, and an analog physical thing stores analog virtual things.
- zenoprax 4mo ago
  > image of an apple, stored as an analog signal on a magnetic tape If I am following along... analog virtual: representation of apple on photographic film digital physical: disc with film.mkv Given the two remaining combinations: analog physical: unexposed photographic film? digital virtual: binary-encoded data (film.mkv)? Anything beyond this and it becomes a philosophical or metaphysical discussion though.
  - fluoridation 4mo ago
    >digital virtual: binary-encoded data Arguably the raw binary data still has a physical aspect, because it hasn't been interpreted yet (other than a reordering by the file system). The virtual thing is what the data ultimately represents. Another subtlety is that a drawing on a page would be an analog representation of the thing, but if the drawing has the shape 右 and the page is placed between two doors, there would be a virtual idea encoded digitally as well.
  - falcor84 4mo ago
    Another example of Analog Virtual is Hokusai's The Great Wave (and similar prints). I recently watched David Bull's videos about his recreation of it [0] and it was fascinating to hear him tell about how even the "original" prints were made from slightly different woodblocks made in the same workshop. [0] https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK-Wicsj5rAasS2g7e-Z9eFUdG6I7ZqED https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK-Wicsj5rAasS2g7e-Z9eFUd...

fluoridation 4mo ago

>What does an "analog virtual thing" look like? The image of an apple, stored as an analog signal on a magnetic tape. >A "digital physical thing" is just a physical thing (disc) with digital things encoded on it. Correct, a digital physical thing stores digital virtual things, and an analog physical thing stores analog virtual things.

zenoprax 4mo ago
> image of an apple, stored as an analog signal on a magnetic tape If I am following along... analog virtual: representation of apple on photographic film digital physical: disc with film.mkv Given the two remaining combinations: analog physical: unexposed photographic film? digital virtual: binary-encoded data (film.mkv)? Anything beyond this and it becomes a philosophical or metaphysical discussion though.
- fluoridation 4mo ago
  >digital virtual: binary-encoded data Arguably the raw binary data still has a physical aspect, because it hasn't been interpreted yet (other than a reordering by the file system). The virtual thing is what the data ultimately represents. Another subtlety is that a drawing on a page would be an analog representation of the thing, but if the drawing has the shape 右 and the page is placed between two doors, there would be a virtual idea encoded digitally as well.
- falcor84 4mo ago
  Another example of Analog Virtual is Hokusai's The Great Wave (and similar prints). I recently watched David Bull's videos about his recreation of it [0] and it was fascinating to hear him tell about how even the "original" prints were made from slightly different woodblocks made in the same workshop. [0] https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK-Wicsj5rAasS2g7e-Z9eFUdG6I7ZqED https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK-Wicsj5rAasS2g7e-Z9eFUd...