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Imposing a licensing system on models for limiting domestic use should require an act of congress but I mean obviously we're well past that red line.
by tracerbulletx 4mo ago
Imposing a licensing system on models for limiting domestic use should require an act of congress but I mean obviously we're well past that red line.
- tiahura 4mo agoThey did. Defense Production Act (50 U.S.C. § 4511 );Export Control Reform Act, 50 U.S.C. § 4812 are just two of them.
- naturalmovement 4mo ago[flagged]
- viscountchocula 4mo agoGenuine question: are non-citizen users within the US considered an "export"?
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- naturalmovement 4mo agoIt depends. Green card holder? No. Everyone else*: Yes. * It's far more complicated and nuanced than this.
- coffeemug 4mo agoRegulatory agencies limit uses of other products without acts of congress-- cigarettes, vapes, drugs, pesticides, chemicals, explosives. Even firearms, despite a constitutional amendment! Why not models? (Note I am not arguing it's a good idea; I'm making a narrow argument that there is precedent.) EDIT: I agree that it should require an act of Congress to explicitly delegate this power.
- verelo 4mo agoNone of those things are knowledge. I think theres something specific around limiting access to knowledge and capabilities that makes this feel insidious.
- Jblx2 4mo agoInformation is covered by ITAR, so that's not new. You can illegally export information about an ITAR covered item by just allowing a foreign national the potential to see an item. They don't even have to prove the foreign national actually did see it. https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-22/chapter-I/subchapter-M/part-120 https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-22/chapter-I/subchapter-M...
- verelo 4mo agoLand of the free, clearly.
- UncleEntity 4mo agoFairly certain all those have "acts of congress" attached to them. I mean, it used to take a constitutional amendment to make something illegal but now we have tons of agencies responsible for regulating all the things. Plus, they're relying on the "math is a weapon" law to ban "export" of the models.
- delichon 4mo agoCongress passed the Arms Export Control Act (22 USC 2778) in the Ford administration and it has been applied to software since at least the Clinton administration.
- conartist6 4mo agoisn't this materially different in that it creates a kind of class system within the US?
- motbus3 4mo agoI wonder what kind of emergency will happen when real elections get around
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- tchalla 4mo agoDo you remember the export controls on Covid vaccine material during the height of coronavirus? I do
- actionfromafar 4mo agoOverturning the Chevron doctrine is good because it stops lawful people from doing things we don't like. We aren't bound by laws, so we can do whatever we want. -- GOP probably
- twoodfin 4mo agoThe Chevron doctrine gave more power to the executive agencies of the current administration, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.
- preg_match 4mo agoThat repealing the chevron doctrine was a calculated play in the unitary executive theory. We all know congress is basically useless these days. But we also know that regulation isn’t, like, optional. It’s going to happen no matter what. So what’s left? Where does that decision making go? Turns out the executive, so that’s what we’ve been seeing and it’s largely uncontested. This should have been obvious to most people going into this, particularly if they understood Trumps platform or Project 2025.
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- calvinmorrison 4mo agoperhaps congress could do something other than vacation
- actionfromafar 4mo agoBut the Orange Tsar King ordered Vacation, so Vacation it is.
- twoodfin 4mo agoRepeal of the Chevron doctrine took the power of deference away from executive agencies and replaced it with first-principles judicial interpretation of statutes. Chevron and the unitary executive theory have essentially nothing to do with each other. I’m still not sure what point is attempting to be made here.
- az226 4mo agoAnd even if a court places an injunction on the ban, it's possible Anthropic will still choose to keep it unavailable.