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On my X1 Carbon, I had to go into the BIOS and disable "secure boot" in order to even boot from a Linux Live USB drive. That would already deter a good number o
by w1ntermute 14y ago
On my X1 Carbon, I had to go into the BIOS and disable "secure boot" in order to even boot from a Linux Live USB drive. That would already deter a good number of people from even trying. I hope things don't get any worse.
- gnosis 14y agoYeah, it's a real shame. I wonder if any kind of antitrust case could be made against Microsoft for this, as it's clearly putting an impediment in the way of installing other operating systems.. and this is a form of anti-competitive behavior.
- otoburb 14y agoApologies for OT question: Which distro are you using to (presumably successfully) boot on the X1 Carbon?
- w1ntermute 14y agoXubuntu 12.10. See my post about my experiences here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4848375 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4848375
- marshray 14y agoHow did you get Linux on a USB drive? That in itself is a PITA and an obstacle for me. Personally, I think having to specifically enable boot-from-USB in the BIOS is a very valuable security measure. However, I do support the ability of everyone to control their own PC.
- w1ntermute 14y agoIt's not hard at all. In Ubuntu you can set up a live USB using the Ubuntu Live USB creator[0]. More directions in the Ubuntu docs[1]. On Windows, there's the LinuxLive USB Creator[2]. 0: https://launchpad.net/usb-creator https://launchpad.net/usb-creator 1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick 2: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
- marshray 14y agoYes, I know I can do it since I've done it before. I'm just saying I find it much more involved than changing a simple BIOS setting.
- antidoh 14y agounetbootin is in the repositories.
- icebraining 14y agoThis. It runs on the three main OSs and creates USB sticks for many distros, it's awesome.
- gcb 14y agoagreed. while this task is not hard, the rest may not go as planned. recently i just moved back to ubuntu instead of debian out of lazyness. tried to copy a bunch of images via dd, unetbootin, whatever method... but the debian installer (be it the disk, netboot, etc) always died trying to look for a cd rom instead. after some dozen tries (20min+ each) i just gave up and got the ubuntu iso and installed. sucks no to have to disable a bunch of proprietary and binary blob stuff, but at least that i can manage --differently from fixing the installer.
- mediocregopher 14y agoIIRC the Arch isos are set up such that you can literally dd them onto a usb drive and they're automatically bootable. Not sure if any other distros do this, but they ought to.
- simfoo 14y agoKeep in mind though that your mainboad must support USB-HDD mode for that to work. Many mainboards don't though, for these you need to install a bootloader on the plug.
- jlgreco 14y agoI have use this before: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB#Graphical_method:_using_liveusb-creator_.28Windows.2FFedora_only.29 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB... Very simple.
- mjg59 14y agoYou disabled secure boot, or you enabled legacy boot (which requires you to disable secure boot)? Windows 8 machines typically won't boot off USB by default (not initing USB at firmware time saves a noticeable amount of time), but you can do it via the bootloader options menu without having to change any firmware settings