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For personal use I don't care if I get access to it. Tokens are becoming too expensive. I am using Chinese models. What worries me is that my company may never

by stanac 3mo ago

For personal use I don't care if I get access to it. Tokens are becoming too expensive. I am using Chinese models. What worries me is that my company may never get access. I work for a well known US company, but from Europe, we also have developers in Mexico. I can only guess US gov will take this into account when deciding who gets to use the new models. Even worse than not getting access is getting fired. Since less than 20% of our developers reside outside US and our management is suffering from AI hype, they can decide to close foreign offices as a way to get access to new models. edit: grammar

malfist 3mo ago
> For personal use I don't care if I get access to it There's a big difference between being priced out of a market option and the government saying you literally cannot buy it. We should all be wary of government controls like this.
- bofadeez 3mo ago
  in theory yes
- stanac 3mo ago
  You are right, I was thinking selfishly. I don't like the control governments have on tech in general. In my country government forced banks to use device attestation for banking apps. If your android phone is in developer mode banking app won't work, you can change bank but it will make no difference. I think they are also enforcing 2FA to be in the banking apps, so I can't even use web app without locked down android phone or iPhone.
- ygg12 3mo ago
  Govt controls of that nature will not be tolerated by financial markets - the line must go up and to the right.
ajmurmann 3mo ago
Even the subscriptions are too expensive?
- wookmaster 3mo ago
  They're pretty limited these days
- stanac 3mo ago
  Last time I used subscription I hit a usage limit in 20 minutes (gemini). I switched to openrouter and have enough prepaid credits to last me for months with Chinese models. I spent about $30 in last two months.
noncoml 3mo ago
> For personal use I don't care if I get access to it. Tokens are becoming too expensive. How is this a rational argument? Are you so self centered that you only care about government decisions that affect ONLY the present you? “I don’t care that the government made prescription glasses illegal, I can see fine without them”
- stanac 3mo ago
  I have zero control about what foreign (US) government does.

by stanac 3mo ago

malfist 3mo ago

> For personal use I don't care if I get access to it There's a big difference between being priced out of a market option and the government saying you literally cannot buy it. We should all be wary of government controls like this.

bofadeez 3mo ago
in theory yes
stanac 3mo ago
You are right, I was thinking selfishly. I don't like the control governments have on tech in general. In my country government forced banks to use device attestation for banking apps. If your android phone is in developer mode banking app won't work, you can change bank but it will make no difference. I think they are also enforcing 2FA to be in the banking apps, so I can't even use web app without locked down android phone or iPhone.
ygg12 3mo ago
Govt controls of that nature will not be tolerated by financial markets - the line must go up and to the right.

ajmurmann 3mo ago

Even the subscriptions are too expensive?

wookmaster 3mo ago
They're pretty limited these days
stanac 3mo ago
Last time I used subscription I hit a usage limit in 20 minutes (gemini). I switched to openrouter and have enough prepaid credits to last me for months with Chinese models. I spent about $30 in last two months.

noncoml 3mo ago

> For personal use I don't care if I get access to it. Tokens are becoming too expensive. How is this a rational argument? Are you so self centered that you only care about government decisions that affect ONLY the present you? “I don’t care that the government made prescription glasses illegal, I can see fine without them”

stanac 3mo ago
I have zero control about what foreign (US) government does.