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If it's anything like ClaudeCode's ultracode, it's nothing new or revolutionary. It's essentially a bunch of subagents being called by a deterministic script w

by gck1 4mo ago

If it's anything like ClaudeCode's ultracode, it's nothing new or revolutionary. It's essentially a bunch of subagents being called by a deterministic script written by the main model thread, each eating tokens for lunch and output of which is synthesized by an orchestrator agent.

mohsen1 4mo ago
Confusion is: ultracode is not a different model with its own benchmarks
- gck1 4mo ago
  Neither is OpenaAI's ultra. Article specifically calls it 'mode' and it's not even mentioned in the model card. It's for sure a codex harness feature. EDIT: yeah, it's the same thing. https://github.com/openai/codex/blob/main/codex-rs/core/tests/suite/multi_agent_mode.rs#L32 https://github.com/openai/codex/blob/main/codex-rs/core/test...
enraged_camel 4mo ago
>> If it's anything like ClaudeCode's ultracode, it's nothing new or revolutionary. OpenAI flat out copying Anthropic is a pretty funny development. It's strong evidence that they've been in catch-up mode.
- gck1 4mo ago
  Eh, pretty much everyone that spent some time tweaking their harness already had a homemade 'ultracode' long before Anthropic did it. OpenAI is just way more careful with what features they add or enable by default in their harness. Anthropic's harness is a junk drawer of random features, with a new feature added every few hours. It feels like they're in panic mode, dropping random things to see what sticks when models are eventually commoditized. I prefer OpenAI way - slow and steady.
Sidio 4mo ago
The fact that it's even named Ultra is pretty telling.
- bogdan 4mo ago
  Ultra expensive