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When you have a family, I understand why you would be extra conservative. Admittedly, in the Bay Area it is a different environment. Engineers get hired by VC-b

by rburhum 14y ago

When you have a family, I understand why you would be extra conservative. Admittedly, in the Bay Area it is a different environment. Engineers get hired by VC-backed startups at lighting speed. Try this: look at a company that just funding in Crunchbase, shoot them your resume, and see how fast they get back at you. You will be surprised.

darklajid 14y ago
Egineers .. with family? I don't quite believe that people with a family are taking a lot of risks, just because it's "the valley". Can you confirm that this is indeed the case, or are we degrading into the age debate (a.k.a. "What? You have kids already, Grandpa?")? Shooting anyone in the bay area a resume wouldn't make sense. While I said that I'm interested in startups, I also clearly indicated that I'm (for now?) risk averse. And ignoring that, I'd be _mightily_ surprised if any startup would say "Yeah, cool. Join us and just work from Germany". Relocation to the US? That's several levels more insane, given my initial post. Even if I'd be interested to live or travel there (nope!) that is making the situation I described worse. Wasting their and my time by sending a resume just to see how fast they get back seems .. evil. I cannot accept. They lose time. Why would I do that?
- svachalek 14y ago
  You won't see many engineers with kids at a company that has $100k in angel funding and 6 likes on Facebook, but many VC-backed startups can afford to give their employees weekends and reasonably competitive salaries.
  - darklajid 14y ago
    Cool! But is that actually answering my post? I was giving an example for reasons that might lead to the 'is the job secure' discussions, as pointed out in the article. Your post isn't related. Weekends and salaries were not part of the discussion before your post. Job security (a.k.a. "Sorry, Jim. We need to let you go") was. So I don't quite get it. If you wanted to reemphasize that it makes no sense to apply to a tiny startup in a situation like mine: Okay, I didn't need that support, but I'm happy you're agreeing. If you wanted to tell me that it's not that bad, since - hey - many startups can 'give their employees weekends' (did you think before writing that? Are you really convinced that 'giving' is involved here?) and offer competitive salaries (which might be the case. It just totally, utterly ignores the point I was trying to make: Job security matters, financially. I didn't even start talking about the emotional level here: Lack of job security will make your life more miserable (unless you've got enough FU money on the bank)).

by rburhum 14y ago

darklajid 14y ago

Egineers .. with family? I don't quite believe that people with a family are taking a lot of risks, just because it's "the valley". Can you confirm that this is indeed the case, or are we degrading into the age debate (a.k.a. "What? You have kids already, Grandpa?")? Shooting anyone in the bay area a resume wouldn't make sense. While I said that I'm interested in startups, I also clearly indicated that I'm (for now?) risk averse. And ignoring that, I'd be _mightily_ surprised if any startup would say "Yeah, cool. Join us and just work from Germany". Relocation to the US? That's several levels more insane, given my initial post. Even if I'd be interested to live or travel there (nope!) that is making the situation I described worse. Wasting their and my time by sending a resume just to see how fast they get back seems .. evil. I cannot accept. They lose time. Why would I do that?

svachalek 14y ago
You won't see many engineers with kids at a company that has $100k in angel funding and 6 likes on Facebook, but many VC-backed startups can afford to give their employees weekends and reasonably competitive salaries.
- darklajid 14y ago
  Cool! But is that actually answering my post? I was giving an example for reasons that might lead to the 'is the job secure' discussions, as pointed out in the article. Your post isn't related. Weekends and salaries were not part of the discussion before your post. Job security (a.k.a. "Sorry, Jim. We need to let you go") was. So I don't quite get it. If you wanted to reemphasize that it makes no sense to apply to a tiny startup in a situation like mine: Okay, I didn't need that support, but I'm happy you're agreeing. If you wanted to tell me that it's not that bad, since - hey - many startups can 'give their employees weekends' (did you think before writing that? Are you really convinced that 'giving' is involved here?) and offer competitive salaries (which might be the case. It just totally, utterly ignores the point I was trying to make: Job security matters, financially. I didn't even start talking about the emotional level here: Lack of job security will make your life more miserable (unless you've got enough FU money on the bank)).