4 ms·

Might be useful to provide some context on why this fork is interesting or relevant

by dwroberts 4mo ago

simoncion 4mo ago
[flagged]
- dwroberts 4mo ago
  I have not needed any of these features to use proton on the games I own so I’m still none the wiser as to who the target is for this or what the context of this fork/its possible merging is
  - simoncion 4mo ago
    > I have not needed any of these features to use proton on the games I own so I’m still none the wiser as to who the target is for this... ...it's people who need these features and fixes? If you don't need them, then you don't need them, and you don't care about this. With the addition of this comment, it seems like your commentary here boils down to "Why would I need this fork of this project that solves a specific set of problems that I neither have nor have bothered to understand?". I do agree that it's reasonable to not waste time learning about problems you don't have, aren't really important if you don't have them, and that you're not interested in learning about, so don't make the mistake of believing that I'm throwing scorn your way.
    - dwroberts 4mo ago
      > you're not interested in learning Perhaps a learning moment for you is, instead of writing these paragraphs you could have just explained more about the project, which other comments have now helpfully done. HN is a news website, and yeah you can post things that are just interesting - but a link to a repository that is one of several thousand forks of a project needs a little bit more explanation for people to understand why it’s here
      - simoncion 4mo ago
        > ...instead of writing these paragraphs you could have just explained more about the project... Firstly, I did. I linked to the readme that you appeared to have not read. Secondly, why would I bother learning in-depth information about the project when I don't have need of it? Having said that, I will take a minute to spoonfeed basic information to someone who treats HN as if it were /r/explainlikeimfiveandalsoincapableofbasicresearch. That's easy. Had you shown any indication that you'd ever read the "Before You Ask" section of "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way", [0] you'd have gotten a different response. You would have also answered your question before you asked it publicly, but that's neither here nor there. [0] Or a similar section of a similar guide.
hparadiz 4mo ago
This guy works for red hat and his code is already constantly merged to upstream. His version is simply more bleeding edge. Also he's already somewhat famous in Linux gaming circles.
drnick1 4mo ago
I had the same question. Why is this needed? Valve already ships a Proton 11.0 (Beta) version in the Steam client.
zamalek 4mo ago
It has fixes and features not in the official proton, but most importantly, proprietary codecs.
mitkebes 4mo ago
Proton-GE includes media libraries that valve can't include, which fixes video playback in many older games. Valve has found a different way to bypass this issue, by sharing video content through their shader distribution system, but that may not work for all titles. Proton-GE also supports more experimental features long before they get added to regular proton, and includes various hotfixes for games that won't work under normal proton. Usually the recommendation I make to people playing on linux is to try with regular proton or proton experimental first, but if that doesn't work then try the newest proton-GE instead.

Might be useful to provide some context on why this fork is interesting or relevant

simoncion 4mo ago

[flagged]

dwroberts 4mo ago
I have not needed any of these features to use proton on the games I own so I’m still none the wiser as to who the target is for this or what the context of this fork/its possible merging is
- simoncion 4mo ago
  > I have not needed any of these features to use proton on the games I own so I’m still none the wiser as to who the target is for this... ...it's people who need these features and fixes? If you don't need them, then you don't need them, and you don't care about this. With the addition of this comment, it seems like your commentary here boils down to "Why would I need this fork of this project that solves a specific set of problems that I neither have nor have bothered to understand?". I do agree that it's reasonable to not waste time learning about problems you don't have, aren't really important if you don't have them, and that you're not interested in learning about, so don't make the mistake of believing that I'm throwing scorn your way.
  - dwroberts 4mo ago
    > you're not interested in learning Perhaps a learning moment for you is, instead of writing these paragraphs you could have just explained more about the project, which other comments have now helpfully done. HN is a news website, and yeah you can post things that are just interesting - but a link to a repository that is one of several thousand forks of a project needs a little bit more explanation for people to understand why it’s here
    - simoncion 4mo ago
      > ...instead of writing these paragraphs you could have just explained more about the project... Firstly, I did. I linked to the readme that you appeared to have not read. Secondly, why would I bother learning in-depth information about the project when I don't have need of it? Having said that, I will take a minute to spoonfeed basic information to someone who treats HN as if it were /r/explainlikeimfiveandalsoincapableofbasicresearch. That's easy. Had you shown any indication that you'd ever read the "Before You Ask" section of "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way", [0] you'd have gotten a different response. You would have also answered your question before you asked it publicly, but that's neither here nor there. [0] Or a similar section of a similar guide.

hparadiz 4mo ago

This guy works for red hat and his code is already constantly merged to upstream. His version is simply more bleeding edge. Also he's already somewhat famous in Linux gaming circles.

drnick1 4mo ago

I had the same question. Why is this needed? Valve already ships a Proton 11.0 (Beta) version in the Steam client.

zamalek 4mo ago

It has fixes and features not in the official proton, but most importantly, proprietary codecs.

mitkebes 4mo ago

Proton-GE includes media libraries that valve can't include, which fixes video playback in many older games. Valve has found a different way to bypass this issue, by sharing video content through their shader distribution system, but that may not work for all titles. Proton-GE also supports more experimental features long before they get added to regular proton, and includes various hotfixes for games that won't work under normal proton. Usually the recommendation I make to people playing on linux is to try with regular proton or proton experimental first, but if that doesn't work then try the newest proton-GE instead.