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Apple was on the USB Implementers Forum that designed USB-C so.. I would say they could definitely be credited as a co-inventor of USB-C, they also introduced o

Apple was on the USB Implementers Forum that designed USB-C so.. I would say they could definitely be credited as a co-inventor of USB-C, they also introduced one of the first devices that used USB-C.

AlexandrB 3mo ago
And then they went too far and introduced laptops that only used USB-C before finally setting at a (so far) happy medium.
- SchemaLoad 3mo ago
  I think we needed Apple to do that to throw a lot of weight behind the standard so it didn't get stuck in an eternal migration that never ends. Though removing the SD card slot was dumb since USB-C was never an alternative to SD cards. Even today the desktop PC market is still stuck on USB-A since they have no Apple equivalent to just get things done.
  - vl 3mo ago
    I really don’t understand what SD card reader on MacBook Pro is for. All small cameras and devices use micro SD. Professional cameras don’t use SD since forever now. Basically I always need an adapter now.
    - mitchell209 3mo ago
      You can use an adapter for a micro SD but you can’t shrink the size of a normal SD card, is my only guess.
    - dutchCourage 3mo ago
      I don't think that's right, professional cameras still use full sized SD cards.
    - deleted 3mo ago
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brookst 3mo ago
In addition to being the sole inventors of lightning (the connector), which directly informed the USB-C spec based on learnings from field use. Apple doesn't get solo credit for USB-C, but they were certainly essential to it. Just compare the USB-C physical interface to the USB-3 micro or super speed type B ports and compare design sensibilities.
- jaharmi 3mo ago
  Also compare the USB-C physical connector to the reversible power connector on Cinema Display models (circa 2004) and older Mac Minis. To me, there appears to be a strong through line to USB-C’s design. https://open.substack.com/pub/theelectronvault/p/apple-cinema-display-power-connector?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web https://open.substack.com/pub/theelectronvault/p/apple-cinem... USB-C can fulfill some/all of what I was using Thunderbolt 2 for with a MacBook Air and a Thunderbolt Display in 2013. Going back far enough, Apple combined video and data into the HDI 45 connector in the mid-to-late 90’s (but no one was going to use that for a laptop, even a laptop of the era). It was chunky enough even on a Power Mac 6100 and display then. USB-C / TB is the latest example of a direction Apple has been moving in for a long time.
- fmajid 3mo ago
  I believe Nokia is responsible for the monstrosity that is Micro-USB, and unbelievably one of the arguments was that it would be more robust than Mini-USB.
bel8 3mo ago
That's not what Grubber claimed tho. They claimed solo inventor, which Apple is not.

AlexandrB 3mo ago

And then they went too far and introduced laptops that only used USB-C before finally setting at a (so far) happy medium.

SchemaLoad 3mo ago
I think we needed Apple to do that to throw a lot of weight behind the standard so it didn't get stuck in an eternal migration that never ends. Though removing the SD card slot was dumb since USB-C was never an alternative to SD cards. Even today the desktop PC market is still stuck on USB-A since they have no Apple equivalent to just get things done.
- vl 3mo ago
  I really don’t understand what SD card reader on MacBook Pro is for. All small cameras and devices use micro SD. Professional cameras don’t use SD since forever now. Basically I always need an adapter now.
  - mitchell209 3mo ago
    You can use an adapter for a micro SD but you can’t shrink the size of a normal SD card, is my only guess.
  - dutchCourage 3mo ago
    I don't think that's right, professional cameras still use full sized SD cards.
  - deleted 3mo ago
    [deleted]

brookst 3mo ago

In addition to being the sole inventors of lightning (the connector), which directly informed the USB-C spec based on learnings from field use. Apple doesn't get solo credit for USB-C, but they were certainly essential to it. Just compare the USB-C physical interface to the USB-3 micro or super speed type B ports and compare design sensibilities.

jaharmi 3mo ago
Also compare the USB-C physical connector to the reversible power connector on Cinema Display models (circa 2004) and older Mac Minis. To me, there appears to be a strong through line to USB-C’s design. https://open.substack.com/pub/theelectronvault/p/apple-cinema-display-power-connector?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web https://open.substack.com/pub/theelectronvault/p/apple-cinem... USB-C can fulfill some/all of what I was using Thunderbolt 2 for with a MacBook Air and a Thunderbolt Display in 2013. Going back far enough, Apple combined video and data into the HDI 45 connector in the mid-to-late 90’s (but no one was going to use that for a laptop, even a laptop of the era). It was chunky enough even on a Power Mac 6100 and display then. USB-C / TB is the latest example of a direction Apple has been moving in for a long time.
fmajid 3mo ago
I believe Nokia is responsible for the monstrosity that is Micro-USB, and unbelievably one of the arguments was that it would be more robust than Mini-USB.

bel8 3mo ago

That's not what Grubber claimed tho. They claimed solo inventor, which Apple is not.